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Air India Fraudulently TriesTo Waive of FDTL Rules

Old 30th Jan 2011, 12:49
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Don't believe Everything the media dramatically prints....

Believe the Folks that know the facts..........

You will know then over time spent at Aviation forums
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Old 1st Feb 2011, 11:04
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Though Air India hastily chose to withdraw the contentious diktat on extension of the prevailing FDTL, due to media pressure. DGCA on its part should have considered the ramifications of their orders on human physiology and performance (Unsafe Deceit – Air India extends Pilots’ duty hours | Aviation Medicine :: Aerospace Medicine).
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 17:57
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Indian DGCA, safety - Mr. Hamid Ali, Jet Airways

The Indian DGCA have little interest in safety. If they did, they would not have approved the appointment of Mr. Hamid Ali, to the Post Holder position of Chief Operating Officer of Jet Airways.

Mr. Hamid Ali was the A320 Chief Pilot at Gulf Air when a perfectly serviceable A320 was flown into the Persian Gulf killing all on board.

The ICAO report found:
"A lack of a crew resources management (CRM) training programme; inadequacy in some of the airline’s A320 flight crew training programmes; problems in the airline’s flight data analysis system and flight safety department which were not functioning satisfactorily; organisational and management issues within the airline"

The ICAO report avaialble to the PUBLIC can be found at the following link:

GF072 Final Report (at the page, click on blue sub-sections to view)

Additonally, the BBC reported:
"The chief pilot of Gulf Air's Airbus A320 fleet, Captain Hamid Ali, has previously rejected reports that pilot error was behind the crash"

The link to the BBC report avaialble to the PUBLIC is:

BBC News | MIDDLE EAST | Gulf Air improves offer

When Jet Airways first began operating the B777, expat pilots were flying trips as PIC without ever having passed a company simulator check and/or line check.

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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 22:22
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Interestingly, tomy, your concerns about safety in Indian civil aviation rely on:
- who's nominated as VP of Flt Ops at Jet Airways is supposedly incompetent because there was an accident on his tenure on another airline he worked for;
- a B777 Jet Airways flight that were supposedly commanded by a very experienced and current captain which was not carrying a stamped piece of paper by a 'competent' authority;

but I don't see a word about:

- the endemically corrupt system inside DGCA, Air India;
- the number of fake pilots currently employed with Indian carriers;
- the "senior" AI capt which stalled a fully loaded B777 after a heavy take off for pure incompetence;
- the list goes on

I see an agenda here...
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Old 10th Mar 2011, 22:04
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Grrr Connections!

So why doesn't anyone take an action against these guys puttin pilots thru all kindsa BS in Air India?
It is apparent that the people in AI are pretty well connected and protected as far as any regulatory actions go and as far as the DGCA is concerned, their level of leaguing has already been disclosed I guess a zil times by now. Let's see if they can put up a crack team to sort this case out as well.
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 10:09
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It is stated that the authorities are investigating the licences of all 4,084 of India's commercial pilots. Surely a country the size of India must have more licenced pilots that that?
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 16:44
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It is stated that the authorities are investigating the licences of all 4,084 of India's commercial pilots. Surely a country the size of India must have more licenced pilots that that?
The number of pilots in a country is a direct function of the number of aircraft to be flown in that country, rather than population or land area.
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