Delta CRJ 900 diverts to JFK with right main gear failure
It's very effective keeping the FA announcing the position to remain in. Once they stop the repetition, people WILL look around either exposing themselves to danger OR the event is over and it's time to get out ASAP.
I suspect some of the screamed repetition of brace brace over and over also serves to calm the nerves of the FA's giving them something to do other then contemplate their own mortality.
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But I was just interested to know whether this constant repetition was something taught at Delta's flight attendants' training.
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Delta is Delta
As a passenger, if my ticket says Delta, the ticket counter says Delta and the plane paint says Delta, it is a DELTA flight.
I am upset enough already to discover at the last minute I am flying on a code share with another airline that I have NOT chosen.
Finally, I dont give a damn to know who is the crew real employer, who is really servicing the plane or who is really cooking the food. I sure know who I am going to blame or congratulate (I do that too) for the quality of my flight; it is the company that sold me the ticket.
I am upset enough already to discover at the last minute I am flying on a code share with another airline that I have NOT chosen.
Finally, I dont give a damn to know who is the crew real employer, who is really servicing the plane or who is really cooking the food. I sure know who I am going to blame or congratulate (I do that too) for the quality of my flight; it is the company that sold me the ticket.
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valvanuz I wouldn't disagree with you as a passenger, although the seller (DAL) does make it reasonably clear that the flight is operated by another company. If most choose to ignore that information, so be it.
But there's no excuse on this forum for any confusion: ASA is not DAL.
But there's no excuse on this forum for any confusion: ASA is not DAL.
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You folks who are confused about DELTA vs ASA...Listen up. If you really want to know, which is which as it pertains to your travels. ASK!!!!
ASK when you book the trip, and if you do it online...somewhere there is a guide to flight numbers and some numbers are codeshare with other regional airlines ( less preferable in my mind as a pilot of some 35 years) and MAINLINE DELTA.
why has this all happened...?????? MONEY...cuz YOU the passenger want cheap flights.
Iompasseo...very tacky about the FA's who are truly the unsung heroes. the pilots can hear the yelling of BRACE and they know the cabin is as well taken care of as time has allowed.
This whole landing is only slightly more than a non event. the gear didn't come down upon approach to white plains...the plane diverted to JFK...so there was time to think about what was happening and have CFR ready at JFK.
This wasn't a sully...I'd bet that this plane will fly again. this type of plane has the engines on the tail, not under the wing, and the damage seems to be slight.
this is not to undervalue the skills of the pilot, copilot and the FA's. Questions arise about the mx or manufacturing of course.
I recall when a 737-400 landed in the same manner and the only injury was the copilot jumping out the side window.
does anyone know if the plane in question evacuated upon landing, or was it a more leisurely exit?
ASK when you book the trip, and if you do it online...somewhere there is a guide to flight numbers and some numbers are codeshare with other regional airlines ( less preferable in my mind as a pilot of some 35 years) and MAINLINE DELTA.
why has this all happened...?????? MONEY...cuz YOU the passenger want cheap flights.
Iompasseo...very tacky about the FA's who are truly the unsung heroes. the pilots can hear the yelling of BRACE and they know the cabin is as well taken care of as time has allowed.
This whole landing is only slightly more than a non event. the gear didn't come down upon approach to white plains...the plane diverted to JFK...so there was time to think about what was happening and have CFR ready at JFK.
This wasn't a sully...I'd bet that this plane will fly again. this type of plane has the engines on the tail, not under the wing, and the damage seems to be slight.
this is not to undervalue the skills of the pilot, copilot and the FA's. Questions arise about the mx or manufacturing of course.
I recall when a 737-400 landed in the same manner and the only injury was the copilot jumping out the side window.
does anyone know if the plane in question evacuated upon landing, or was it a more leisurely exit?
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Today there was a similar incidentat KMKE; Plane with landing gear problem lands at Mitchell - JSOnline with a CRJ200 - 2 legged landing with the left mains still up. Guess that no media hype as no one had a camera?
Plane with landing gear problem lands at Mitchell
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A SkyWest passenger plane made an emergency landing at Mitchell International Airport with only two of its three sets of landing gear activated, an airport spokeswoman said.
The aircraft landed safely shortly after 5 p.m. after notifying the airport of a landing gear problem, airport spokeswoman Pat Rowe said.
There were no reports of injuries aboard the plane, which was en route to Milwaukee from Omaha, Rowe said.
Passengers aboard the plane disembarked late Tuesday afternoon and the aircraft was to undergo a complete inspection, Rowe said.
The plane's flight number was AirTran 3074; AirTran and SkyWest have a marketing agreement, Rowe said.
The aircraft, a CRJ200 with 36 passengers and three crewmembers on board, landed with its left landing gear up, according to a statement from SkyWest that said the carrier will conduct an investigation of the incident.
SkyWest spokeswoman Brooke Keith said the aircraft is owned by SkyWest and identified the flight as SkyWest flight 3074.
The incident will also be investigated by the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board, Rowe said.
Plane with landing gear problem lands at Mitchell
By Jesse Garza of the Journal Sentinel
Sept. 28, 2010 6:04 p.m. |(0) Comments
A SkyWest passenger plane made an emergency landing at Mitchell International Airport with only two of its three sets of landing gear activated, an airport spokeswoman said.
The aircraft landed safely shortly after 5 p.m. after notifying the airport of a landing gear problem, airport spokeswoman Pat Rowe said.
There were no reports of injuries aboard the plane, which was en route to Milwaukee from Omaha, Rowe said.
Passengers aboard the plane disembarked late Tuesday afternoon and the aircraft was to undergo a complete inspection, Rowe said.
The plane's flight number was AirTran 3074; AirTran and SkyWest have a marketing agreement, Rowe said.
The aircraft, a CRJ200 with 36 passengers and three crewmembers on board, landed with its left landing gear up, according to a statement from SkyWest that said the carrier will conduct an investigation of the incident.
SkyWest spokeswoman Brooke Keith said the aircraft is owned by SkyWest and identified the flight as SkyWest flight 3074.
The incident will also be investigated by the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board, Rowe said.
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This two airlines are both subsidiaries of Skywest Inc (The parent company of ASA and Skywest, and soon ExpressJet).
SkyWest, Inc.
SkyWest Plane Lands With Partial Landing Gear - Milwaukee News Story - WISN Milwaukee
It is also the third such incident for that company this year.
Small jet makes emergency landing at Ontario - cbs13.com
SkyWest, Inc.
SkyWest Plane Lands With Partial Landing Gear - Milwaukee News Story - WISN Milwaukee
It is also the third such incident for that company this year.
Small jet makes emergency landing at Ontario - cbs13.com
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"It was better than the Hudson," the pilot said.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Exactly like what someone else said, this landing is nothing more than some sparks and a higher maintenance bill... the Hudson landing was in the water, what an idiot for comparing himself to the Hudson landing..
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Exactly like what someone else said, this landing is nothing more than some sparks and a higher maintenance bill... the Hudson landing was in the water, what an idiot for comparing himself to the Hudson landing..
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"It was better than the Hudson," the pilot said.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Exactly like what someone else said, this landing is nothing more than some sparks and a higher maintenance bill... the Hudson landing was in the water, what an idiot for comparing himself to the Hudson landing..
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Exactly like what someone else said, this landing is nothing more than some sparks and a higher maintenance bill... the Hudson landing was in the water, what an idiot for comparing himself to the Hudson landing..
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Murphy's obviously exactly right. Go back to your flightsim game, Midget. The form of your post alone gives up an excellent clue to your age. I'm guessing 14.
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As a passenger, if my ticket says Delta, the ticket counter says Delta and the plane paint says Delta, it is a DELTA flight.
A Delta mainline airplane will have an average of about 45 years of experience in the cockpit. So will a Delta codeshare with another 'legacy' carrier. However, a Delta-branded flight utilizing regional, commuter, and feeder carriers operated by non-legacy carriers might have an average of 10-15 years experience in the cockpit, or often much less.
I agree that one of the things that sets a premium on legacy carrier tickets is the quality of service, which to me, includes the expectation of a highly experienced flight crew at the front end. The only way the customer can tell, though, is by knowing the airplanes the legacy carrier operates, and buying tickets that specify that equipment. Even then, subsitutes can occur.
I don't disparrage the crews or carriers of the regionals; we all have to build our time, and all pyramids narrow at the top. But I would like to see more emphasis at the point of purchase on who exactly will be operating the aircraft providing the service for sale. There is a difference.
