Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Rumours & News
Reload this Page >

Ryanair flight hits 'turbulence'. 3 injured. Emergency landing

Wikiposts
Search
Rumours & News Reporting Points that may affect our jobs or lives as professional pilots. Also, items that may be of interest to professional pilots.

Ryanair flight hits 'turbulence'. 3 injured. Emergency landing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10th Sep 2010, 08:51
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Malta
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ryanair flight hits 'turbulence'. 3 injured. Emergency landing

Bad weather in the Central Med last night. Huge CBs.


Passengers injured as Ryanair flight from Malta to Treviso hits turbulence


Three passengers were treated for slight injuries last night when a Ryanair flight from Malta to Treviso hit turbulence, Italian websites have reported.

The aircraft made an emergency landing at Bologna.

According to the reports the turbulence over the Tyrranian Sea, caused 'a panic' among the passengers.

One of the injured persons was a steward.
timesofmalta.com - Passengers injured as Ryanair flight from Malta to Treviso hits turbulence
Jetset320 is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 08:57
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: between the ground and the sky
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Now if the steward was in the flightdeck assisting the Captain, like Michael wants, things could have turned out differently.
I hope all involved are well.
DRM1973 is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 09:22
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Malta
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This article states that the injured passengers were injured by falling hand luggage from OHCs. Perhaps that is why most airlines restrict hand luggage to 5 kg, rather than 10kg allowed by FR.

Two passengers and a steward received medical treatment for slight head injuries at a Bologna hospital last night, after they were injured in turbulence that led a Treviso bound Ryanair flight to make an emergency landing at Bologna's Marconi airport.

The incident happened at 20.20 yesterday evening, when the flight that departed from Malta was reportedly caught up in severe turbulence while descending on the Tyrrenian Sea, There were 170 people on board the flight, 40 of which were Maltese.

According to the Bologna airport authorities, the plane struck two air-pockets causing the aircraft to buckle.

Some passengers were slightly injured by falling baggage from the over-head compartments.

After a two-hour wait at Bologna, all passengers were transferred to Bologna on another flight.
Ryanair Malta-Treviso flight makes emergency landing at Bologna airport | MaltaToday
Jetset320 is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 09:47
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: France
Age: 63
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This article states that the injured passengers were injured by falling hand luggage from OHCs. Perhaps that is why most airlines restrict hand luggage to 5 kg, rather than 10kg allowed by FR.
Some, maybe, but not "most". See here or here. I just checked the official hand luggage pages of 3 airlines at random (BA, EasyJet, BMI) and found no mention of weight limits on any of them.

I wonder why so many people feel the need to have a pop at FR even when it concerns things for which MOL cannot possibly be held responsible? Sure, he's annoying, and the very notion of Hahn is a crime against the travelling public, but that doesn't mean that people injured during turbulence are his fault. (On my last flight with FR, I had a chuckle at the CC announcement: "The toilets are located at the rear of the aircraft, and are still free.')
sTeamTraen is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 10:15
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 73
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
According to the Bologna airport authorities, the plane struck two air-pockets causing the aircraft to buckle.
Really?
axefurabz is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 11:31
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 378
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There is now so much hand baggage on Ryanair (with overpriced empty baggage holds) that on our last flight (gerona-bournemouth) the only empty row of seats had at least a dozen bags (unsecured) piled on the seats as the overhead bins were full!
woodpecker is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 12:38
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Limbricht
Posts: 2,194
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
There is now so much hand baggage on Ryanair (with overpriced empty baggage holds) that on our last flight (gerona-bournemouth) the only empty row of seats had at least a dozen bags (unsecured) piled on the seats as the overhead bins were full!
Report it to the CAA.
Avman is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 13:26
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Rye
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Or the IAA even.

There is a point at which clutter in the cabin must become a danger to safety. I guess that this is shortly after impact? Although I am not one for unnecessary regulation, this seems an area where safety is being compromised purely for the sake of cost savings, and as such should be regulated against.

There is a double issue here - the presence of heavy unsecured objects in the cabin and the inevitability that in the event of an emergency evacuation most passengers will try to retrieve and take their baggage with them. Both will cost lives eventually.
Viscount812 is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 14:02
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cloud Cookoo Land
Posts: 1,270
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
And were the CC aware of this prior to departure because as inept in flying aircraft as they currently are, they are pretty spot on with regard to regulation and policy. Excess baggage within the cabin goes into the hold once labelled by dispatch. Or was it a case of pax moving baggage inflight in order for it to become more accessible? Again it should have been stowed for landing...let's be clear here. This shouldn't be shrug your shoulders, who cares, seat of your pants cowboy sh1t when safety is concerned.....
Callsign Kilo is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 14:10
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Wet Coast
Posts: 2,335
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From AvHerald
Passengers reported, that the flight attendant's trolley hit the ceiling of the aircraft, people not buckled in lifted off and contacted the ceiling with their heads, then all came down again and luggage out of the opening overhead compartments joined.
That would be "moderate chop" then ?

By hell if true.
PaperTiger is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 15:20
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: On the dark side of the moon
Posts: 976
Received 10 Likes on 4 Posts
We all (and I include myself in this) need to be thinking more about putting the signs on when near an area of CBs and less about allowing the CC to be out in the aisles making up for the unrealistic fares that our pax are being charged.
J.O. is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 15:37
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Too far from the equator
Posts: 745
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thats 2 LCCs in the news for dodgy safety practice in the last 24 hours - see Asian Forum re Air Asia blocking pax from sitting near overwings ( Premium Seats apparently -extra dosh ) by leaving tables down for entire flight - emergency evac thankfully not needed . Hard to blame the CC here - if they do not obey their Lords and Masters they are out. Ryanair are almost paranoid about NOT using the cargo holds . Safety AFTER profit ?
Hope all recover soonest.
kotakota is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 15:47
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Monrovia / Liberia
Age: 63
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I remember CEO of mine (which you too might recall kotakota?), who, when asked what was the most important thing in aviation, replied (quite earnestly) that is was 'profit !'

I kid you not.
Old King Coal is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 16:03
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: UK
Age: 83
Posts: 3,788
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Well, I have personally witnessed passengers stuffing the most outrageously bulky and heavy pieces of baggage into the overhead lockers in the business and first class sections of the world's so-called legacy carriers (including the likes of BA).

I really don't think this phenomena is at all unique to low cost carriers.

Perhaps it is simply that those of you out there who think that it is, have never ever managed to grace the forward sections of the so-called legacy carriers with your esteemed presence and therefore have no experience upon which to comment with any degree of accuracy?
JW411 is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 16:17
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Posts: 26,806
Received 270 Likes on 109 Posts
To say nothing of those infernal 'airliner mountaineers' who struggle on-board with those ridiculous rucksack things...which they then attempt to stuff into an overhead locker.

'Heavy or bulky items must be placed under the seat in front of you' is fine if there's room - but with those large legroom-stealing IFE boxes some airlines fit under the seats, that is not always possible.
BEagle is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 16:17
  #16 (permalink)  
Psychophysiological entity
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Tweet Rob_Benham Famous author. Well, slightly famous.
Age: 84
Posts: 3,270
Received 33 Likes on 16 Posts
The injuries don't surprise me one jot. Just how long is the madness of 'persuading' passenger not to use the hold going to go on. I have a member of extended family who last year went from LAX to China for a tour with only hand baggage. This year it was India. Saves so much time.

Just how strong are the overhead bins supposed to be? I've seen several break just lately.

Money could be made in providing a service that people would not mind paying for. I'd gladly kiss my bags goodbye a day before I travel, seeing them go to a local collection agency, and onto whatever airport's security. That way, being gouged for money wouldn't be so painful.

There has to be a standard overhead case. Made for it and sold worldwide for the job. Laptop and camera okay, but NOTHING ELSE - and none of these daft clothes specially made to take a month's worth of small items in hidden pockets.
Loose rivets is online now  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 17:22
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Newcastle
Age: 53
Posts: 613
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
It still amazes me how some people can pay less than £20 for a return flight and complain at a little extra for their luggage.

It is like asking some of them to part with their crown jewels.
MATELO is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 17:53
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Difficult Question
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Low Cost airlines like hand baggage only for the quick turnarounds and the extra they can charge for the hold bags.

Passengers like hand baggage because airports inevitably lose/damage/steal a significant proportion of the bags that get handled.

New aircraft need to be designed to better cope with the amount of luggage that people are able/willing/allowed to carry on to the aircraft.
Saint is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 18:09
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 696
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
On my last Ryanair flight there wasn't room for all the hand luggage in the lockers.

It also struck me that I don't think there were more than two people on the plane that had hand luggage more than 2cm under the limit.

And with the hold guarded by fascists that want commission for charging ever higher fees for being in excess of ever falling limits, I don't think this is much of a surprise.

Planes need to be designed according to the modern commercial era, which I can't see changing.
01475 is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 18:19
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Cote d'Azur
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I wonder why so many people feel the need to have a pop at FR even when it concerns things for which MOL cannot possibly be held responsible? Sure, he's annoying, and the very notion of Hahn is a crime against the travelling public, but that doesn't mean that people injured during turbulence are his fault.
We've spent two decades now attempting to think past the concept of 'fault', so perhaps they're not having a pop, but expressing an uneasy (hopefully inaccurate) sense of swiss cheese holes slowly lining up.
justanotherflyer is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.