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Old 1st Sep 2010, 04:08
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but since most of here speak English of some sort we can actually communicate by conveying actual information.
You have obviously forgetten the Avianca B707 incident near New York when plain english failed to convey the extreme nature of the situation. A mayday call is the clearest phrase possible
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On the Channel 9 news clip in Australia this is the announcement from the flight deck, recorded on someone's video:

"Ladies and Gentlemen as you can appreciate we are a tad busy on the flight deck at the moment and we'll come back to you with some more information. In the mean time you must be assured that we are trained for this situation - normally in a simulator of course but we are trained for it so rest assured everything is under control."

The pictures don't show any slides deployed.
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 06:14
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Gotta love this gem from the channel 9 reporter:
...the pilot circled for about an hour, he had to dump all the fuel that he had...
Those QF pilots must be well practiced with their glide approaches.
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 08:22
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If aviation journalism is this bad and inaccurate all over, how reliable are their other stories in all other fields? It makes you wonder!
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 08:40
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dream747,

I don't think anyone would describe Channel 9 as "Aviation Journalism". More like Fox News with lots of:

"Oh My God! The pilot circled for about an hour, he had to dump all the fuel that he had. And now, a story about a 2 headed sheep from New Zealand"

The serious aviation journalists of this world are still relatively sober and not sensationalist.

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Old 1st Sep 2010, 08:45
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Replacement engine 5th-podded to SFO this afternoon from SYD
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 08:50
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I may well be wrong but I believe that "Charlie Charlie" in the days of the morse key was the quick way of saying "Correct/Affirmative" or whatever.
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I thought Charlie shot Roger and took over, unofficially. Something to do with certain Asian tongues having difficulty with their RRRR's ?? Certainly Charlie suddenly seemed to be around in certain areas. Could be wrong of course.

If aviation journalism is this bad and inaccurate all over, how reliable are their other stories in all other fields? It makes you wonder!
We've been wondering for years - but then weren't we told that five loaves and two fishes fed about 10 million once ? nothing new under the sun.
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 08:58
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I wonder if the QF Tech crews and LAMEs' have nice wet pockets after the following quote from Mr Epstein, the $300k motormouth. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/01/2999463.htm?section=justin
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 10:30
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Apropos nothing at all, I believe 'charlie charlie' was from Morse days for 'c c' = 'Message Correct'
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 10:51
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The pictures don't show any slides deployed
That's because they landed, normally, off a 3-engine approach (which is really NOT a big deal in a 747) and then made their way to a normal parking stand. There's no need to evacuate the aircraft just because you've had an engine failure, hence the lack of slides.
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Not having much luck with their 74's are they.....

.Air passengers' mid-flight terror as hole is blown in Qantas 747 fuselage - Times Online
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 11:30
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explosion?

I see no mention of an explosion in the report linked in the first message of the thread so just where did the sensationalism come from?
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 11:59
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explosion ?

mm, that's what I thought too, but then If you read the small print caption underneath the photo, apparently "...authorities said" !!!!!
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An uncontained failure means the engine case was breached.

It takes a LOT of energy to do that. Think a piece of a rotor, with the mass and velocity of a cannonball, ripping through a steel case.

If you ever experienced one, YOU would certainly call it an explosion. The media get plenty of aviation stories wrong, but DON'T criticize them for calling this an explosion.
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Not having much luck with their 74's are they.....


Both very different stories, and after all the media hysteria settles down we will find that this incident was handled very well indeed by the crew as it was with QF30 at RPLL.

By Pontius That's because they landed, normally, off a 3-engine approach (which is really NOT a big deal in a 747) and then made their way to a normal parking stand. There's no need to evacuate the aircraft just because you've had an engine failure, hence the lack of slides.
The same can be said for QF 30 taxied all the way to the gate! B744s are tough birds!

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Old 1st Sep 2010, 13:11
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August was a bad month at R-R for uncontained failures!
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 13:52
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Video here.

Qantas Airways spokesman said there was no fire, but an engine surge can often cause what appear to be flames.
Hmm, IMHO, a little economical with the actualité.
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 14:21
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Pax speaking:
To be pedantic it could be written, "The engine failed with explosive force" but the 'bang' would have sounded like an explosion. They were fortunate that it blew out so early in the sector and neither earlier nor later. I hate to say it but - gimme four of the beasties.
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Pretty lucky, dumping fuel with that source of ignition!
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