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Airblue down near Islamabad

Old 28th Jul 2010, 06:35
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Airblue down near Islamabad

BBC News reporting a passenger aircraft down in Pakistan, 150 people believed to be onboard.

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Old 28th Jul 2010, 06:40
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Seems to be Air Blue, according to AP.

This earlier take
0633 28JUL10
ISLAMABAD (AP) Police say a passenger plane has crashed into the hills in Pakistan's capital.

It was unclear how many people were on board.

Officials at first thought it was a small plane. But police official Mohammed Saeed said later Wednesday morning that "it seems that it is a bigger tragedy" and that the aircraft was a passenger plan and may be larger than previously thought.

The accident occurred in the Margalla Hills in Islamabad on a rainy morning. Rescue workers were heading to the scene, but the roads were difficult.
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 06:43
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From BBC

"Reports are coming in that a plane has crashed in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad.
Initial information suggests it was flying from Turkey to Islamabad via Karachi with an estimated 150 people on board.
Pakistani television is showing images of smoke arising from a hillside in poor weather conditions.
A huge rescue effort has been launched. Details are still emerging."

Edit: Now reported as a Domestic Flight, crashed in a difficult to access area.
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 07:07
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It's apparently Karachi to Islamabad.

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Old 28th Jul 2010, 07:12
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Looking at the arrivals it looks like it is the Karachi flight despite reports saying the flight was inbound from Turkey.

ABQ-202 KHI-ISB Karachi Wednesday 09:30 Wednesday 09:30 Call 114
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According to airblue's flight status page Flight 202 left Karachi and is still showing 'On time' for arrival in ISB.
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 07:15
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BBC showing vision of fire in heavily wooded area. Reporting 152 on board.
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 07:17
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Metar

oprn 280600z 05016kt 4000 Ra Few01st0 Sct030 Ovc100 Few030tcu 25/24 Q1006.8
oprn 280500z 09018kt 3500 Ra Sct010 Sct030 Ovc100 Few030 25/24 Q1006.9
oprn 280400z 05016kt 3500 Sct010 Sct030 Bkn100 Few030tcu 29/24 1006.7
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Yes, the weather is cloudy and rainy but not particularly low visibility - looks like he may have failed to clear a ridge line. The burn pattern is consistent with that.
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BBC News - Passenger plane crashes in hills near Pakistan capital
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The burn pattern is consistent with that.
Oh - can you explain that - I'm not au fait with burn patterns.
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 07:44
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The crash site is apparently along one of the ridges to the NW of the airport. There is a typical-looking uphill fan of burned woods such as one finds in a CFIT into hilly terrain. Of course I am just thinking out loud, but given that it is monsoon season, CFIT is not an unreasonable speculation.
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 07:59
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Reports on TV suggests there are survivors. 40 or so as of now.

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Old 28th Jul 2010, 08:01
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Airblue down near Islamabad

The crash site is apparently along one of the ridges to the NW of the airport. There is a typical-looking uphill fan of burned woods such as one finds in a CFIT into hilly terrain. Of course I am just thinking out loud, but given that it is monsoon season, CFIT is not an unreasonable speculation.

It wouldn't be the first thing that comes to my mind. For a start, we don't seem to yet have any official report on communications from the a/c. Bound to be pilot error, tho', I suppose. Always is
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 08:03
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Apparently an A321.
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CNN reports 10 found alive. The site is indeed in the Margalla Hills Park N of the city. The TV from Pakistan says 5.

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Bad Missed Approach

Hope there are some survivors, but it seems none, reports start saying the rescue services start recovering dead bodies.

story said the pilot being instructed by the tower to go around and to divert to Lahore which it should be pilot decision and instead of following standard missed approach procedure RWY30 "LEFT turn away from hills" the pilot executed RIGHT turn as if he is following SID to the south east.
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Looking at the arrivals it looks like it is the Karachi flight despite reports saying the flight was inbound from Turkey.
AirBlue fly Manchester-Islamabad with a fuel stop in Trabzon (allegedly the world's longest A321 route), maybe that's where the confusion has crept in.

How that fits in with a KHI-ISB flight I don't know, although I see that the downed Airbus is now being reported as one of their A321s.
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 08:27
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Looks like there were some witnesses.
List of passengers in plane crash in Islamabad released
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 08:28
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Ugh that would be ugly, if they pranged it into a hill while reconfiguring after a go-around. I can't imagine a domestic pilot in Pakistan not knowing about these formidable parallel ridges near the airport. The hills look to be about 10-12 miles from the AP.

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