French ATC

[Ballstroker]

A.mandon

By the way, about "new manufacturing plant", except for your London City, give me the list and number of your manufacturing plants as compared to France's

At the risk of dragging this further off topic, I have to correct a myth that you are fed by your politicians there in France about UK manufacturing:

Value of manufacturing in GDP terms, USD market rates

UK: $323 billion
France: $306 billion

2008 figures (latest in dataset), source: UN United Nations Statistics Division - National Accounts

Maybe this answers your question about manufacturing plants with hard facts?

[Squawk7777]

... and my country's better than yours! Bwaaaaaa .....

Pathetic.

Am not even affected directly. I don't fly AF, even business class because it's the worst service in the world.

Congrats' for making the dumbest comment of the day! You probably have never been on AF. I thought this board is for professional pilots.

On days like this, what multinational will focus on France to build a new manufacturing plant, production line or new enterprise? They can't even get there to talk about it, let alone do it.

I am having fun at dissecting your idiocy. Take a look at what sectors strike in France (private vs. public) before posting your ignorance. F the haters! Take a glance at the US FAA controllers who have no right to strike. Ask them how they feel, how their morale affects their work.

Great one from French ATC last night. I shouldn't be too upset with them as they were the ones actually at work, but..........

We are into commanders discretion, it is the wrong side of midnight, we had been sat on the ground with pax onboard for 4 hours with slots going forward & back. Finally get told to call Brest...... we must have been the only aircraft in her sector and we got the classic French ATC reply.........

Station Calling?

So you know the entire picture/SA? You know that the person wasn't busy on the phone or with other related work that you cannot see? Why don't you stopping nagging like mad housewives and get a broad picture for yourself?

You have the right to complain by doing something about the problem.

Where is the best place to go live ? Is it UK ?

Take a look which country has the highest number of emigrants.

[ACCP]

Ab-initio ATCO are sent to UK school during initial training in order to improve English

I knew this already but it's difficult to tell when you talk to them.

As a matter of interest have you, as an ATCO, sat on a flight deck from the south of France to the north of Europe (or the other way around) and don't feel a touch of embarrassment when you hear your french colleagues control aircraft in english and compare their command of this language to that of your Swiss, German, Belgian, Dutch and Scandinavian counterparts. I would gladly invite you to sit on my jumpseat so you can hear it for yourself, mon cher ami aiguilleur du ciel.

That's what this thread is all about. Get your act in order, be as efficient and fluent as your northern european colleagues, and people will stop having digs at you.

[Squawk7777]

command of language my ...

ACCP, complete rubbish! (and I have flown in Europe, the US and Latin America!)

[ACCP]

I am comparing with northern europe. I don't include the Latinos in there on purpose.

[greuzi]

Schmuck7777

- I was not comparing France to any other country
- I do not live in the UK, but did when I registered
- I think you will find Mexico has more emmigration than the UK or France but why did you even mention it?
- PP is frequented by lots more people beyond PPs. Have you ever noticed ATCOs, Engineers, Cabin Crew, Wannabees, Retirees, Consultants, Lawyers, Doctors here amongst many others?

Do you fly?
Your reactions suggest you are easily drawn to assumptions. Worse still you react strongly to them and then veer away from the topic at hand. Do that in the air and you won't just annoy those around you....you will endanger them.

G

[Squawk7777]

Wharrgarbl

Hey Greuli,

ich würde mal sehr vorsichtig mit solchen Kommentaren sein. Ich empfehle mal meine vorherigen Beiträge zu dem Thema durchzulesen! und auch die von Ihnen gemachten Kommentare bevor Sie so einen Unsinn und Unterstellungen von sich geben!

Sorry ppruners

and to the person directed if (s)he doesn't understand.

[greuzi]

Squawk,
Stop wasting everybodies time with another pointless diatribe. For the non-german readers, your post asks me to check your previous posts as if it gives some kind of credibility to dispute my opinion of you? It doesn't.

http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/3947...ml#post5296495

I won't post on this thread again and ask the Moderators to wrap it up. It has more than passed its useful life.

G

[Squawk7777]

Sorry greuzi

Your reading comprehension is way off. I referred to my previous posts regarding this subject and not some non-sense that I posted on JetBlast ("meine vorherigen Beiträge zu dem Thema durchzulesen"/ = my previous contribution to this thread). Deliberate mixing of apples with oranges is just a tad below the belt. Like this post or this of yours where you clearly demonstrate more than just a little bit of animosity that has clearly nothing to do with a professional aviation discussion. Additionally, you dare to point the finger at someone else and accuse them about a pointless diatribe? So much to form an opinion about you, your credibility and your coexistent hypocrisy.

[Ptimat31]

I think that we get it. Us the frenchs are all lazy civil servants on strike but also incompetent on the rare days we are working. We are also vicious, mostly with english guys, refusing them directs routes and better FL they deserve. (because they are ultimately competents). I'm just wondering why the brits are coming to settle in France then. Because in the south, it is all crowded. After all, the positive side of it is that we'll be all fluent soon as most of them are unable to speak french even to order a baguette after 5 years.

[stator vane]

don't shut this thread down!!! please!!!!

this is so much better than reading history books!!!