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Old 15th Apr 2010, 06:50
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All quiet here...
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 06:55
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Question Government financial assistance

Wonder whether the airlines will be assisted by the government a la farmers when they have some act of God that causes them hardship??
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:14
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Pretty quiet but still the odd flight out of STN. Air Berlin just departed for NUE.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:19
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feel sorry for all the checkin staff who have to deal with the SLF who just dont understand and start giving them a lot of abuse
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:24
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Early news reports suggest it could be several days as the volcano is still spewing out large amounts of ash.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:24
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BA plan to cancel all departures W.E.F. 1200 local time.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:26
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and that would explain BAW24 from KORD to Heathrow...well...just landing back at KORD at 0220 local

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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:29
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Much more effective than UNITE/BASSA.....
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:31
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Over-reaction?

Are we reacting too quickly, given that the dustcloud is not yet near many of the closed airports? Obviously as the dustcloud's presence manifests itself, then no flights can take place near it. No flames please, just reasoned answers, if I am myself over-reacting!!

(I have myself diverted due to a volcanic eruption in Sicily which closed Catania while we were en-route. We spent a nice 24 hours in Palermo!)
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:32
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BA News minutes ago
Last updated: 08:25 15 April 2010

There was a large volcanic eruption in Iceland on Wednesday April 14.

Due to the weather conditions, a plume of volcanic ash has now spread southwards towards northern Europe and is severely affecting all airlines' flight activity in the area.
For safety reasons and on the direction from Air Traffic Control Service (Nats) a decision has been made to cancel a number of flights and close all London airports. As a result ALL airlines will be impacted and we will therefore not be able to operate services after 11.30am from London Heathrow, London Gatwick and London City.

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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:36
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Gatwick

There are still movements at Gatwick but looking over the ramp I can see 19 easy tails .... easy are certainly stacking up and the remote stands are getting used. Looks like anything south and east bound is still getting away but nothing to north and west.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:37
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Flying MAN-CGN tonight with Germanwings, just called the call centre and they didn't know the problems! in fact she thought I was a spoof caller when I told her!! She says all is well and the flight will go... I won't hold my breath.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:39
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Are we reacting too quickly, given that the dustcloud is not yet near many of the closed airports? Obviously as the dustcloud's presence manifests itself, then no flights can take place near it.
I would agree with you Roy, but I would not want to be the one making that decision.

And also just because its not showing up on the visible radar picture does not mean its not here but in lower concentrations.

I'm supposed to be flying this afternoon and tomorrow, looks like I may have a few days spare.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:40
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If this goes on and we cannot fly, they'll have to rename this website PPLuMe.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:45
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Subject to coverage, Live Radar gives an idea of where aircraft are not. Still seem to be some flights out of Oslo.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:46
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haze in southern UK already

Torquay Southern UK 0700,Z
Without having heard the news today I looked out of the window for a weather check , and remarked upon an unusual thick band of crappy haze.
Whats all that stuff? I thought, no flying for me today?
Actually its improved a lot now
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:55
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Just in case anyone thinks that this is too much being careful - I was on the BA flight that lost all four engines simultaneously in '82 due to volcanic dust ingestion. Trust me - you can't necessarily see the dust - but it's lethal ....... 350 people furiously learning to pray - in a very quiet aeroplane - with NO land visible - just sea.
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 07:59
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Presumably the rest of western europe is shutting down as well or is this purely a UK problem ? If the issue is ony affecting higher altitudes - how long before operators try and leave UK at lower levels before climbing outside the affected area ? Damn, missed Uncle Eric ! Never mind, could be a nice sunset............
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 08:04
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Royalistflyer...... At least you have reason to appreciate Eric! I flew with him once; he was a real character. Had a great time. ..... especially when I said: "I understand you know something about volcanoes".
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Old 15th Apr 2010, 08:06
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Could have been worse - might have dragged out John Nichol !
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