Tu 204 down near DME
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What they meant was "operable".
This vid of the crash site shows another plane coming in for a landing. Looks like the wreck is located significantly to the right of the center line.
YouTube - Raw video of passenger plane crash in Moscow woods
This vid of the crash site shows another plane coming in for a landing. Looks like the wreck is located significantly to the right of the center line.
YouTube - Raw video of passenger plane crash in Moscow woods
At Domodedovo airport? Yes.
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Good picture of a crash location.
Õðàíåíèå ôàéëà, áåñïëàòíî çàêà÷àòü è ñêà÷àòü
EDIT: same picture as in liider post (#30) and his loads much quicker.
Õðàíåíèå ôàéëà, áåñïëàòíî çàêà÷àòü è ñêà÷àòü
EDIT: same picture as in liider post (#30) and his loads much quicker.
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The plane is nearly 300m from the center line.
Here is the photo:
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/2204/64011.jpg
Same on Wikimapia:
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Here is the photo:
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/2204/64011.jpg
Same on Wikimapia:
Wikimapia - Let's describe the whole world!
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It appears the initial tree contact was pretty close to center line, but the ground slide was a good 15-20 degrees to the right of the rwy heading.
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Most likely one of the wings dropped as he tried to stretch the glide and make it onto the airport boundary. Or maybe he knew the highway was approaching and was trying to put some distance between them.
Who cares, the aircraft CRASHED SHORT OF THE RUNWAY. Why is the fact that he is off centerline even an issue?
Seems of little impact IMHO
Who cares, the aircraft CRASHED SHORT OF THE RUNWAY. Why is the fact that he is off centerline even an issue?
Seems of little impact IMHO
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Rumour now has it that
"the engines were operating till impact".
as in "not only capable of operating, but actually produicing above idle thrust".
source local news raido station citing some aviation official.
and the citation said "engines" as in "both engines".
"the engines were operating till impact".
as in "not only capable of operating, but actually produicing above idle thrust".
source local news raido station citing some aviation official.
and the citation said "engines" as in "both engines".
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ILS not used
According to Kommersant (a rather respected newspaper), the investigators have established that pilots (for so far unkown reasons) weren't able to use ILS on approach. Link (Russian)
(Edit) Some more details from the report:
(Edit) Some more details from the report:
- Pilots didn't inform ATC that ILS wasn't used
- Apparently, there are indications on CVR that a GPS navigation system was used instead
- Last message from ATC to pilots was that they were left of glideslope, crash occured while they tried a course correction
Last edited by wozzo; 25th Mar 2010 at 16:02.
Originally Posted by wozzo
According to Kommersant (a rather respected newspaper), the investigators have established that pilots (for so far unkown reasons) weren't able to use ILS on approach. Link (Russian)
UUDD 212330Z 16003MPS 0100 R14R/0450N R14L/0700U FG VV001 03/02Q1002 64290050 14290045 NOSIG= [Wind 160 degrees at 3 m/sec; 100 m visibility; vertical visibility 100 ft.; temperature 3 degrees C, dewpoint 2 degrees C; runway visual range for runway 14R: 450 m, Not changing significantly and for runway 14L: 700 m improving]
UUDD 220000Z 17003MPS 0250 R32R/0700N FG VV001 02/02 Q100282290045 NOSIG=
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Head of CAA speaketh:
The big honcho described the accident as a CFIT and blamed "human factors". He confirmed that there was fuel on board and the engines were operating normally.
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Last message from ATC to pilots was that they were left of glideslope, crash occured while they tried a course correction
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Last message from ATC to pilots was that they were left of glideslope, crash occured while they tried a course correction
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wozzo, to quote a famous Russian book:
And — heaven preserve! — don't read any Soviet newspapers before dinner.
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