First Officer flies 13 years without license
Sh1t. You mean I should have had a licence all those years? I thought it was like riding a bicycle, if you could do it you could do it. Never got asked for licence riding a bike.
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Im shocked
As said Im shocked about this since I thought I know this person fairly well. I have had several meetings with at the same hotelbar during last year in Amsterdam. And everybody I have talked to at their airline have previously always that he is an absolute exelent pilot and teacher. I know that his background is flying fighters in the swedish airforce so defenetly he did know how to fly.I just do not understand anything !
Lets wait and see what will come out. Its gotta be something strange about this though
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Lets wait and see what will come out. Its gotta be something strange about this though
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I too know this person having been his roommate for 6 months. I can honestly say he was an irritating prat and no one should feel sorry for him. His skill as a pilot was mediocre at best (although he would rattle on endlessly how good he was) and he was arrogant both in and out of the flight deck. I was duped by him financially so shame on me, but what he has done is inexcusable and I wish him nothing but the worst.
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AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - A Swedish pilot with a fake commercial license was arrested in his cockpit at Amsterdam's Schiphol airport as he prepared to fly 101 passengers on a Boeing 737 to Turkey, Dutch police said Wednesday.
The 41 year-old Swede, who was at the helm of a jet bound for Ankara, had been flying for 13 years and logged more than 10,000 flight hours using forged documents for airlines in Belgium, Britain and Italy, authorities said.
The pilot, whose name was not disclosed, was said to have expressed relief when confronted and taken off his pilot's stripes.
The 41 year-old Swede, who was at the helm of a jet bound for Ankara, had been flying for 13 years and logged more than 10,000 flight hours using forged documents for airlines in Belgium, Britain and Italy, authorities said.
The pilot, whose name was not disclosed, was said to have expressed relief when confronted and taken off his pilot's stripes.
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Apart from naughty actions with fake doc's.....he can't have been too bad to keep flying that long! 
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Ansett had a pilot caught out with fake docs in the 90's.
He failed his RAAF pilots course and then faked tons of Macchi hours in his logbook and eventually got accepted by Ansett.
He was caught out after current airline pilots, who were on his RAAF course, saw him in Ansett uniform and reported his history to them.
Bye-bye was the end result, and a few years before Ansett said bye-bye too.
He failed his RAAF pilots course and then faked tons of Macchi hours in his logbook and eventually got accepted by Ansett.
He was caught out after current airline pilots, who were on his RAAF course, saw him in Ansett uniform and reported his history to them.
Bye-bye was the end result, and a few years before Ansett said bye-bye too.
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Caught flying for a Turkish Charter carrier
His name was all over the media as the Turkish aviation industry was shocked to hear it happening in their own backyard for the past 2 years.
The culperates name declared in the media was: Thomas SALME
You can also go to this link and see his picture also being posted;
??TE O SKANDAL P?LOT - AirportHaber
Its amazing to see how many loopholes our industry has and there are those whom take advantage of these and causing a major flight safety risk for us all.
The culperates name declared in the media was: Thomas SALME
You can also go to this link and see his picture also being posted;
??TE O SKANDAL P?LOT - AirportHaber
Its amazing to see how many loopholes our industry has and there are those whom take advantage of these and causing a major flight safety risk for us all.
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Greenfield: you have worked with him in three airlines, he was detested by most people he got in contact, Puts undue stress on all of us, etc etc..
what does that say about you?? did you know and look the otherway? he is a total idiot, he has "learned" an attitude which he mistakenly thought to be the way we legitemate pilots act and behave...
Or did you just want to be on his good side, since he was the protege of the DFO, and the Base Captain???
Butt i guess if you are just stating facts its ok, right?
what does that say about you?? did you know and look the otherway? he is a total idiot, he has "learned" an attitude which he mistakenly thought to be the way we legitemate pilots act and behave...
Or did you just want to be on his good side, since he was the protege of the DFO, and the Base Captain???
Butt i guess if you are just stating facts its ok, right?
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You'd think after 9/11 the airlines and, come to that, the aviation authorities would have put fairly stringent checks in place to make sure nobody got to be in control of an aircraft that shouldn't be.
13 years of fooling the airlines and the authorities with fake documentation in 3 different countries says to me that there is a major security breakdown that needs addressing rather urgently.
It makes you wonder how many more "fake" pilots there are out there.
Sounds like a job for a young investigative reporter to cut their teeth on.
You might even want to check the credentials of the chap sitting next to you if you've never flown with him before. Or, even if you have flown with him before.
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13 years of fooling the airlines and the authorities with fake documentation in 3 different countries says to me that there is a major security breakdown that needs addressing rather urgently.
It makes you wonder how many more "fake" pilots there are out there.
Sounds like a job for a young investigative reporter to cut their teeth on.
You might even want to check the credentials of the chap sitting next to you if you've never flown with him before. Or, even if you have flown with him before.
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Chuck........you will probably open up barrels of worms if you can to investigate the credentials of all the foreign gijangnims in KAL!
Some of the so called adventurers were caught if the happen to meet with a sharp local Korean LIP ( not many, believe me! ). Those lucky enough to be " trained " by expay LIPs get through with a lot of " advice " on how to fool the system or fool the Korean checkers! There you have it, easy as ABC.
Some of the so called adventurers were caught if the happen to meet with a sharp local Korean LIP ( not many, believe me! ). Those lucky enough to be " trained " by expay LIPs get through with a lot of " advice " on how to fool the system or fool the Korean checkers! There you have it, easy as ABC.
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Interesting that 3 airlines that employed him never checked that he had a valid licence. And surely when his LPC checks were done by TRE, a copy goes to the relevant CAA? I am presuming here that it is not just held by the airline? If the CAA got a copy then do they not do a basic check - like put the date of the current LPC on the pilot's record?
I am amazed that all those airlines never bothered to check that a new pilot had the correct documentation!
As for whether it was OK for him to fly because he managed it for 13 years, and some stuff in the ground exams is not relevant, well, surely the job of airline pilot involves honesty, trust and integrity too? What else has might he have faked/ covered up?
And how come he changed jobs so often? Were they on to him?
I am amazed that all those airlines never bothered to check that a new pilot had the correct documentation!
As for whether it was OK for him to fly because he managed it for 13 years, and some stuff in the ground exams is not relevant, well, surely the job of airline pilot involves honesty, trust and integrity too? What else has might he have faked/ covered up?
And how come he changed jobs so often? Were they on to him?
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you only paid $20 for your ticket ...you expect to have a 'real' pilot sitting up there in the lhs ?cmon people get real !
evidently the dutch had been concerned about this guy for some time ..kept lining up on the actual runway itself...hmmm
Camel you sound like an old fashioned fool
Yeah because we all know when ordered by ATC to land
that if we can not see the runway due to something like white out condition flat lighting or slush and snow cover we cannot Go missed without FMC/sops permission and we can not GA either,...because we'd be sacked for an 'unstable approach'
,...but we can get sooo much extra performance on TO with EFATO cancel the DERATE all the time blindly and ignorantly ....it is 'new idea' floating around for about 20/30 some odd years now instead we can't just give it the "Ol' Boeing Push," [if applicable]....and we can jus' drag her on in
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Yeah because we all know when ordered by ATC to land
that if we can not see the runway due to something like white out condition flat lighting or slush and snow cover we cannot Go missed without FMC/sops permission and we can not GA either,...because we'd be sacked for an 'unstable approach'
,...but we can get sooo much extra performance on TO with EFATO cancel the DERATE all the time blindly and ignorantly ....it is 'new idea' floating around for about 20/30 some odd years now instead we can't just give it the "Ol' Boeing Push," [if applicable]....and we can jus' drag her on ingreat post
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And another one who wasn't caught out, but I now know to have falsified his CV.
Once a given carrier signs them up, they are effectively legalised. Some reluctance on the part of those duped, to admit their oversight, is perhaps understandable.
Once a given carrier signs them up, they are effectively legalised. Some reluctance on the part of those duped, to admit their oversight, is perhaps understandable.
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Corendon is an airline that is selling flight time to unexperienced FO:s
and to put a brand new FO (250 hours) together with a "Captain" without licence must be hard to explain for the DFO.
and to put a brand new FO (250 hours) together with a "Captain" without licence must be hard to explain for the DFO.