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Aeroflot A320 takes off on Oslo Taxiway

Old 26th Feb 2010, 16:31
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Aeroflot A320 takes off on Oslo Taxiway


"An Aeroflot Airbus A320-200, registration VP-BWM performing flight SU-212 from Oslo Gardermoen (Norway) to Moscow Sheremetyevo (Russia), was cleared for takeoff from runway 01L at about 15:20L (14:20Z) 25/02/10 , but took off a parallel taxiway. The airplane climbed out safely and continued to Moscow, where the airplane landed safely.

Gardermoen Airport confirmed, that the airplane took a wrong turn and took off a taxiway, no other traffic was on or in the vicinity of the taxiway. It is not clear at this time, whether or when the tower controllers noticed the error. Norways Accident Investigation Board and Civil Aviation Authority have been informed of the incident."
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Old 26th Feb 2010, 16:36
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Old 26th Feb 2010, 17:26
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Sounds like each cockpit should have an electronic moving map, showing the relative position of the aircraft to the ground layout, to assist with orientation and to help avoid these issues from happening.

I've seen quite a few of these events reported recently.... thankfully no accident YET!
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Old 26th Feb 2010, 17:57
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Yet? How about the Comair CRJ at Lexington in 2006?
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Old 26th Feb 2010, 19:13
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Sounds like each cockpit should have an electronic moving map, showing the relative position of the aircraft to the ground layout, to assist with orientation and to help avoid these issues from happening.
The newer a/cs like the B738s, B773ERs and A380s have an electronic moving map called the Electronic Flight Bag or as Airbus calls it, Airport Navigation. A great deterrence to prevent incidents like this.

On a sidenote, why were the visual cues to distinguish a taxiway from a runway ignored by the flight crew ? And is there ground radar at this airport for the ATC to locate the a/cs exact location ?
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Old 26th Feb 2010, 20:48
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An EFB may help, but won't solve the problem. If you already think that you are on the runway, you probably wouldn't check that that you are on the runway (if that makes sense!). We need EFB plus better ground based systems.
Two incidents in as many weeks...
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Old 26th Feb 2010, 23:08
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Two incidents in as many weeks...
Makes me wonder just how often this does occur and does not get noticed and/or reported.

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Old 26th Feb 2010, 23:38
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At our company we have this little gadget called "RAAS" - Bitchin' Betty is screaming "on taxiway" as soon as you are taxing faster than 40kts and you are not on a runway - guess it should become mandatory...
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Old 26th Feb 2010, 23:51
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The LOC being centred on line up is a good clue and one which I usually check. The FBW Airbus types automaticly tune the ILS of the departing runway if there is one and it's a simple task to quickly press the LS button on and off. And my company SOPs require a verbal confirmation by both pilots that the piece of concrete we are lining up on is the correct runway at the correct entry point.

However, crews sometimes ignore warning clues. In 2000, SQ006 attempted a take off on a taxiway at TPE and ran into construction equipment killing about 80 people. It was during a typhoon and the departure was breifed as a LWMO. The crew manually tuned the ILS to activate the PVD (Para Visual Display - a horizontally mounted barbers pole device which gives you centrline information from the LOC) and noticed that it was still shuttered on line up. The second FO on the jump seat pointed it out, but the Captain dismissed him saying that it was probably US. He didn't know enough about the system to understand that it was telling him that he wasn't on the centreline. A fatal error.
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Old 27th Feb 2010, 00:15
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I thought SQ006 was a runway closed for repairs. A co-worker at my co died in that incident and the CEO/founder of my co (what is now a very big co indeed) was scheduled to be on that flight but switched to Eva that left just before...
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Old 27th Feb 2010, 00:22
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Sounds like each cockpit should have an electronic moving map, showing the relative position of the aircraft to the ground layout, to assist with orientation and to help avoid these issues from happening.
What is it with this new 'breed' of pilots that makes it impossible for them to take a p#ss without having some electronic widgit to tell them that their zipper is undone ?

I had a couple of young (but relatively experienced) guys in the sim not too long ago who decided to inform the tower that they were declaring an emergency because I'd failed the flight director on them

If a crew can't distinguish between a taxiway (that is only a taxiway) and a bloody great runway then I suggest that they go looking for some other means of employment.
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Old 27th Feb 2010, 00:43
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Now, it was DAYLIGHT, not dark. How can this happen? When you line up great big numbers 01R should have been noted. Didn't the tower controller note their line-up?

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I had a couple of young (but relatively experienced) guys in the sim not too long ago who decided to inform the tower that they were declaring an emergency because I'd failed the flight director on them
I can certainly believe this...shock/horror.
Whatever...next?
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Old 27th Feb 2010, 02:03
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"I thought SQ006 was a runway closed for repairs".

It was a parallell taxyway marked as a runway for standby use. It hadn't been used as a runway for a very long time apparently. Although the findings leaned on pilot error, there were other factors such as the airfield markings at TPE. Taiwan operates to TERPS standards and the markings and signs were not PANSOPS standard which the SQ crew would have been more used to.

Since the accident, the taxiway has been painted as a taxyway and the markings at TPE have gradually become more standard since I have been flying there in the last eight years.
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Taiwan operates to TERPS standards and the markings and signs were not PANSOPS standard which the SQ crew would have been more used to.
Considering the fact that the crew was going to (or had been) operating to the USA, if they were 'not familiar'...they most certainly should have been, as SQ has been operating to the USA since...1979.

By the way, TERPS refers to approach minima (and their application), not runway/taxiway markings.
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Taiwan operates to TERPS standards and the markings and signs were not PANSOPS standard which the SQ crew would have been more used to
By the way, TERPS refers to approach minima (and their application), not runway/taxiway markings.
And neither does PANSOPS. (Procedures for Air Navigation; SID's, STARS, Approaches and Missed Approaches)

Where do people get this stuff from? Just throw some acronyms out there?
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Old 27th Feb 2010, 10:31
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Airport diagram here: http://www.ippc.no/norway_aip/curren...NGM_2-2_en.pdf
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Old 27th Feb 2010, 12:03
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Clowns; it's perfectly obvious there (even in LVPs/the dark/etc) which is the runway and which is the taxiway.
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Old 27th Feb 2010, 12:11
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The newer a/cs like the B738s, B773ERs and A380s have an electronic moving map called the Electronic Flight Bag or as Airbus calls it, Airport Navigation. A great deterrence to prevent incidents like this.
Nah... just a couple of microsof pilots... that's all. EFB, seeing eye dog, blow by blow taxi instructions from ATC... still wouldn't help these two gabronies.
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Old 27th Feb 2010, 12:29
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Strikes me that the proffesionalism of the industry is slowly declining.

I know a lot of people are going to scream out at me for a remark like that, but incident's of this magnitude are on the up.

Shocking....
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