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Emirates A380 continues to LHR after Cargo Fire?

Old 18th Jan 2010, 13:59
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Emirates A380 continues to LHR after Cargo Fire?

Been hearing some stories about an Emirates A380 out of DXB en-route LHR had an intermittent cargo fire indication, known problem by all accounts on this aircraft.

After a while they decided to fire the bottles into the hold because they could no longer decide whether it was false or not, but then elected to continue with the flight to LHR!!!!!

If this is true it's shocking news, any event like this must surely be "land at the nearest suitable airport" under a Mayday.

Anyone else heard anything, hope it's not true.
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Old 18th Jan 2010, 14:05
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Sounds a little suspect, lets wait and see.
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Old 18th Jan 2010, 14:16
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Beats the living daylights out of the UAL evacuation at Newark, at least on some deeper philosophical level...
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Still cant find any info , anybody
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...and what's the nearest suitable airport where you can land an A380 (and take off again after investigations have been completed)? Maybe it was LHR anyway.
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Old 18th Jan 2010, 19:43
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After a while they decided to fire the bottles into the hold because they could no longer decide whether it was false or not, but then elected to continue with the flight to LHR!!!!!

If this is true it's shocking news, any event like this must surely be "land at the nearest suitable airport" under a Mayday.
Come on guys.
Any pilots flying the a380 for any airline over the world will be more or less the best that outfit has to offer. They will also be a lot more 'scoped up' on the various glitches the 380 is suffering at the moment.
We all know fire is a pilots worst nightmare.....they are not going to take ANY chances.

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Any pilots flying the a380 for any airline over the world will be more or less the best that outfit has to offer.

Oh! that's good. Rare to meet someone who hasn't heard of seniority.

The first pilots onto a new type are generally Management (if you can't do, manage) or the oldest.
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Apologies offered in advance to Mr. WS for the following fun

We all know fire is a pilots worst nightmare.....they are not going to take ANY chances.
No prob. Get a set of stairs on call and we'll be all set.
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I'm in stitches now Checkboard, thanks, I really needed that.

Btw. I nicked the animation-smiley for future reference.

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It wouldn't be the first time that this particular outfit has continued to destination after a cargo fire indication. May have something to do with the way they have dealt with guys that diverted in the past?
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Exit...

It wouldn't be the first time that this particular outfit has continued to destination after a cargo fire indication. May have something to do with the way they have dealt with guys that diverted in the past?
Not kidding mate, a good friend of many of us here went down that road 5 or 7 years ago with no serious damage (except for the bags the hold lights were burning to pieces!) , no injuries and the company reputation in tact after a no s*it hold fire and faced the wrath of EK mis Management for any reason they could think off for not getting the frame back to home plate.

Ya can't win!
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So they discharged the bottles just in case the intermittant warnings were false. I wonder if the warnings continued. If the warnings didn't continue the crew may have thought the fire was real and was now out. Still a good reason to land. If the warnings continued now is a really good time to land. Suitable airport when you might be on fire is anywhere. They better have a good explaination for all the people in the back. I wonder what Airbus has to say. We will probably never know the whole story.
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There's been an EK A380 in the BA Hangar at LHR for the last few days ... any BA Engineers out there?
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That would be the SQ 380 who got an engine change and is now getting a gearbox replaced.
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 03:33
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We will probably never know the whole story.
That is...IF there was/is a real story to begin with....considering some folks wild imagination, and/or distorted 'facts'.
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BH Child.. where is the gearbox? We'd love to know..

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Old 19th Jan 2010, 05:45
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Nearest 'suitable', or 'available', runway?

I'd suspect that any strip of concrete able to handle the weight would do if necessary; getting it out might then be an issue, as long as it's not a pile of charred metal.

Airbus designed the 380 so that any 747-capable strip could handle the 380 (leaving aside ground-handling issues) - so between OMDB and EGLL, there would be myriad places to put down if an emergency required it. Frankfurt, Finkenwerder, Amsterdam and CDG come quickly to mind. Plus lots of former-Soviet Antonov-capable strips in eastern Europe.

Another aspect might be that the pilots might have felt more familiar with EGLL than anywhere in between so if not necessary to get down pronto, then being over familiar turf might have been a better place to be.

I make no comment as to company policies, ground handling, engineering support, ability to get the airframe out, etc.
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BH Child.. where is the gearbox? We'd love to know..
That one? Gearbox
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I would be interested in hearing the Engineering side of this... which sensors do they use and what is the failure/service history for that P/N and/or manufacturer?
Chris Wickens has been doing some interesting research on responses to alerts with histories of false alarms, not making a judgment on this event either way, is anyone familiar with this vein of his research?
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 08:28
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Nom De Guerre,

Don't get your statement. All engines have gearboxes or there's no way to drive all the accessories (hydraulic pumps, oil pumps, idg's, fuel pumps etc etc etc)
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