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Old 17th Dec 2009, 10:10
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flybe smoke in cockpit

flybe flight be278x en-route lgw/iom made emergency landing at man 16/12/09. at 2055 gmt.after a warning light indicated smoke in the cockpit.
45 passengers escaped via emergency chutes. no injuries..
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A warning light for smoke in COCKPIT.....Really ????
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HAHA, sorry, your honour, I couldnt see the SMOKE light for the smoke in the cockpit....
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Ah yes, that'll be the big red warning light indicating that extra strength emergancy trousers are now in operation. Hope everyone was ok.
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Which escape chutes did the passengers escape via? Not sure I have seen any on a Q400
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A warning light, located in the cockpit, which indicated "Smoke".

Smoke alarm for a cargo hold, I would guess. Not bad reporting, just poor composition, and perhaps an audience primed to condemn a journalist!
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Was this the same one that started with a problem with the de-icing equipment, culminating in 'sparks' from one engine, hence the mayday ?
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Which escape chutes did the passengers escape via? Not sure I have seen any on a Q400
That'll be because the Q400 doesn't have chutes. Let's not let the truth get in the way of a sensational story...
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The "Warning" was the "Light" was getting dim maybe?
Good all turned out ok

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742-xx Was this the same one that started with a problem with the de-icing equipment, culminating in 'sparks' from one engine, hence the mayday ?
there may be some truth to the claim, the engine intake heater element was found pretty well burnt to bits at the connector
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BE278 landed earlier today on time, in the IOM. According to flight stats anyway...
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The Q400 is too short to require slides, but the Embraer 195 has em'
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Ditching Dams

The Dash 8 300 & 400 have "ditching dams" at the window emergency exits. These deploy automatically whenever one of these exits are opened. Their function is to stop water from flowing in through the window exits if the aircraft should ditch. With a land emergency they just hang loose out of the way. They can easily be confused for emergency slides by the great unwashed (flying public). Hope this clears up a bit of confusion.
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The Dash 8 300 & 400 have "ditching dams" at the window emergency exits. These deploy automatically...
Not true.

The 300 & 400 do have ditching dams, which are exactly what they sound like. They form a knee height dam at the foot of the door to hold off water in the event of a ditching.

The are NOT activated/deployed automatically.

The main passenger door ditching dam is like a baking tray mounted in a track, and in its stowed position sits in the ceiling above the door. To activate it, you slide it in its track until it hits the floor.

The forward right pax emergency exit consists of two parts, the upper part falls in your lap and the lower part hinges out from the cabin floor. To arm its 'ditching dam', there is a red handle to swing from one side to the other which locks the lower part of the door in place when the upper part is removed.
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The 300 series has underwing exits which when removed automatically inflate diitching dams, the 400 series does not have underwing exits and the dams are opperated manually.

The inflatable dams on the 300 (along with the exhausts) were once the "bain of my existace"... terrible things
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The Q400 is too short to require slides
It is not too short but sufficiently low (just) not to require them.
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Grrr

The ditching damns on the 300 & 400 are very different.

300 is inflatable and operates automatically when you open the underwing exits which in turn pulls the chord linked to the damn.

The 400 ditching damn is/are plastic pieces which need pulling into place in the event of a ditching! Not automatic!!

'smoke' caption relates to smoke being srnsed in either the forward or rear hold. A quick look on the 'check fire detect' panel will show which hold!

Did they fire the extinguisher on this occasion?

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slapdash8,

you are correct, the root cause was a burnt out intake heater adapter, associated burning smell through the compressor and into the bleed air system. Aircraft returned to service on the 18th.
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Bravo to the crew, from what i have heard it was a text book evacuation, and nothing but praise on how it was handled by the crew during and post evacuation and by the ground staff in MAN.
Did they meet the 90 seconds?
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