BA aircraft strikes jet bridge at Washington Dulles
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Beeline..... Have you ever set foot on a flight deck ?
In virtually all wide bodied aircraft no part of the wing is visible from the flight deck. When self-parking with stand guidance the crew will have already checked that the marked parking area is clear before approaching. When that is not possible then the crew have to place their entire trust in the marshaller who should always be positioned so as to ensure he can guide the aircraft clear of all obstructions. Where he cannot do that on his own he may have one or more 'wing-men' to ensure his blind areas are covered.
Sounds like the Jetty was not correctly positioned from the previous departure and the incident may have occurred regardless of marshaller or guidance
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I can assure you my presence on the flight deck is more regular than your previous post has implied.
I can also assure you I have many times marshalled numerous types of aircraft in and out of hangers and on and off stand.
My post was therefore a suggestion of the course of actions as I have not yet read the official report.
Your procedure is entirely correct and should be adhered to, but in the real world of the ramp area, some variables do play havoc with the system.
Once again accidents do happen, the actions that occured must be learnt and avoided in future.
I can assure you my presence on the flight deck is more regular than your previous post has implied.
I can also assure you I have many times marshalled numerous types of aircraft in and out of hangers and on and off stand.
My post was therefore a suggestion of the course of actions as I have not yet read the official report.
Your procedure is entirely correct and should be adhered to, but in the real world of the ramp area, some variables do play havoc with the system.
Once again accidents do happen, the actions that occured must be learnt and avoided in future.
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History lesson
Originally Posted by HeathrowAirport
Isnt there a boeing factory in washington?
Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo
Seattle, Washington...
The Pacific Northwest was known as the Columbia District, and it was jointly claimed by Great Britain and the United States. Until the early 1800s, the only people in the area were aboriginals, and there wasn't much need for ownership to be settled. White settlements increased, and the Oregon Treaty of 1846 divided the Columbia District between the U.S. and what is now Canada.
On the Canadian side, they created a province called British Columbia. On the U.S. side, they decided against calling the new territory Columbia, because it would be too easily confused with the U.S. capital, the District of Columbia. So they named it Washington.
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Saw a BA safety bulletin about a B767 that had its LE damaged after contacting the aerobridge. Didn't state the location although I strongly suspect this incident could be it. Looking at the pic of the damage, didn't seem that bad. If the wing was sheared off, there could have been an explosion leading to a potential disaster.
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Bealine...What Variables???
Pulling into the stand, if any ground equipment is INSIDE of the RED lines, I stop the A/C until the "variables" are moved...period...
Pulling into the stand, if any ground equipment is INSIDE of the RED lines, I stop the A/C until the "variables" are moved...period...
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Virtually all wide bodied aircraft Magplug? Guess you've never stepped foot in a wide body Airbus flightdeck as I can assure you that the wing is visible from the flight deck of the 332/343/345 - in fact I can even see the outer engines of the 343/345... Must be a Boeing problem
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It saves time and effort to leave stuff in the box.
People allow aircraft into the box in the above condition.
Aircraft get damaged.
It will prob need a loss of life to get this fixed.
Anyone who does not want to be involved in this type of damage to aircraft should just stop the aircraft going into box in this condition, taxi or tow.
People allow aircraft into the box in the above condition.
Aircraft get damaged.
It will prob need a loss of life to get this fixed.
Anyone who does not want to be involved in this type of damage to aircraft should just stop the aircraft going into box in this condition, taxi or tow.
It saves time and effort to leave stuff in the box.
People allow aircraft into the box in the above condition.
Aircraft get damaged.
People allow aircraft into the box in the above condition.
Aircraft get damaged.
Are there no enforceable procedures before an incident?
Is this an OSHA regulatory issue or FAA?
White Knight:
It was not possible to see any of the wing or the engines of the DC-10-10 from the flightdeck.
It was only just possible to see the wingtip of the DC-10-30 (larger wingspan) from the flight deck so maybe it was a Douglas thing too.
Mind you, in those days I don't think the A340 would have been classified as a widebody? Maybe that was an Airbus thing?
It was not possible to see any of the wing or the engines of the DC-10-10 from the flightdeck.
It was only just possible to see the wingtip of the DC-10-30 (larger wingspan) from the flight deck so maybe it was a Douglas thing too.
Mind you, in those days I don't think the A340 would have been classified as a widebody? Maybe that was an Airbus thing?
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Mind you jw411 (you 411a's little brother??) the 767 would hardly be classified as a wide body either would it
And this is the type we're talking about here I believe
I could be a really sad Reggie S Potter and google fuselage diameters but I got better things to do
What's a DC10 these days but hundreds of frying pans in the making
And this is the type we're talking about here I believeI could be a really sad Reggie S Potter and google fuselage diameters but I got better things to do
What's a DC10 these days but hundreds of frying pans in the making
White Knight:
The last sentence was supposed to be a bit of humour but it was obviously totally lost on you.
By the way, Fedex are still flying over one hundred of your frying pans.
The last sentence was supposed to be a bit of humour but it was obviously totally lost on you.
By the way, Fedex are still flying over one hundred of your frying pans.
