Engine out on Iceland Express charter aircraft, landing at Gatwick
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Reykjavik, Iceland
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Engine out on Iceland Express charter aircraft, landing at Gatwick
Have you guys more info on this, the article in Icelandic media does not say
name of operator nor type of aircraft, just that it was a charter aircraft flying
from Alicante to Keflavik, Iceland, and had an engine shutdown or failure and
had to land at Gatwick. Newsclip does however say that it was not their aircraft,
as if they ever had one, and that the company would not do business with this
company again, lots of cudos from pax after IEX reception in KEF with vouchers for
free travel from iceland Express etc:
Vísir - Şurfti ağ lenda vegna bilunar í hreyfli
and
Vísir - Farşegi á Gatwick: Flugfreyjunum var brugğiğ
A delay of 4 hours until a new aircraft was available, probably from AEU
based at Gatwick.
name of operator nor type of aircraft, just that it was a charter aircraft flying
from Alicante to Keflavik, Iceland, and had an engine shutdown or failure and
had to land at Gatwick. Newsclip does however say that it was not their aircraft,
as if they ever had one, and that the company would not do business with this
company again, lots of cudos from pax after IEX reception in KEF with vouchers for
free travel from iceland Express etc:
Vísir - Şurfti ağ lenda vegna bilunar í hreyfli
and
Vísir - Farşegi á Gatwick: Flugfreyjunum var brugğiğ
A delay of 4 hours until a new aircraft was available, probably from AEU
based at Gatwick.
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
According to the avhearld it was G-STRW:
Incident: Astraeus B752 near Brest on Oct 23rd 2009, engine failure
Incident: Astraeus B752 near Brest on Oct 23rd 2009, engine failure
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: south east UK
Posts: 375
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
well I can't comment on the newspaper article as I don't speak Icelandic. However all iceland express aircraft are operated by AEU on the AEU AOC, so I suspect they will be using AEU aircraft again, just like they were this morning and will be tomorrow.
There is alot of politics in iceland between IEX and Icelandair, the latter not liking their toes being trodden on, so perhaps there is some underlying stirring going on here
There is alot of politics in iceland between IEX and Icelandair, the latter not liking their toes being trodden on, so perhaps there is some underlying stirring going on here
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sussex
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I don't speak Icelandic either, but if you follow the link to the article, and use Google translate - it appears to say-
"Matthias said he does not expect the same engine would be used again in the charter by the airline."
(As opposed to referring to using the actual Airline.)
"Matthias said he does not expect the same engine would be used again in the charter by the airline."
(As opposed to referring to using the actual Airline.)
"Matthias said he does not expect the same engine would be used again in the charter by the airline."
Just out of curiosity, what happens to failed engines and where is a replacement obtained from.
Are they repaired and fitted back onto aircraft in a fleet assuming they do their own maintenance? Do big airlines have spare engines lying around?
Is there a second hand reconditioned engine market with hangers full of spare engines.
Just out of curiosity, what happens to failed engines and where is a replacement obtained from.
Are they repaired and fitted back onto aircraft in a fleet assuming they do their own maintenance? Do big airlines have spare engines lying around?
Is there a second hand reconditioned engine market with hangers full of spare engines.
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Seoul
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hate to be mean but even this lowly SLF knows that that answer about reusing an engine depends fully on the nature of the failure! Blow an oil pipe, fix it, shatter a disc, no engine left to repair!
Please consider your question a bit more before posting as we need to keep our already low image as good as possible on this site.
Please consider your question a bit more before posting as we need to keep our already low image as good as possible on this site.
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NY
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Depends upon why the engine failed. Most large outfits have spares. Weather or not the engine is repaired in-house also depends on who owns the engine, if the engine is on a maintenance plan, etc...
Many large outfits lease the engines and pay a flat-rate by the hour for a maintenance plan.
If an operator experiences an un-contained catastrophic failure, then you can expect the engine to go back to the manufacture for analysis.
Many large outfits lease the engines and pay a flat-rate by the hour for a maintenance plan.
If an operator experiences an un-contained catastrophic failure, then you can expect the engine to go back to the manufacture for analysis.
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: East of LGB
Age: 69
Posts: 625
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sunnybunny, the following response are "typical"
Depends on the nature of the failure. More often than not, a repair is made and the engine is rotated back into service. Many airlines have replacement engines in inventory (coming out of above mentioned repair) or access to replacement engines in arrangements with engine manufacturers or maintenance providers
Yes, as a rule, but not necessarily right away, even if someone else is doing their maintenance. Also, the same engine does not have to back on the same airplane. They move around quite a bit. That way, you can put the airplane back into service. No point waiting around for an engine, eh? We got a beauty right over here for ya Governor. 
Full, no, but there are lot of aircraft in the Southwestern USA desert. That said, engines are available. I wouldn't say there's hangars full of them, but they are available. The usual headache is if the aircraft is not at its home (maintenance) base. Then they have to get one to the aircraft.
Otherwise, it's really not that big of a deal. Really.
Oh, and Teachme, My God, learn some manners.
Just out of curiosity, what happens to failed engines and where is a replacement obtained from.
Are they repaired and fitted back onto aircraft in a fleet assuming they do their own maintenance? Do big airlines have spare engines lying around?.
Is there a second hand reconditioned engine market with hangers full of spare engines.
Otherwise, it's really not that big of a deal. Really.
Oh, and Teachme, My God, learn some manners.
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: East of LGB
Age: 69
Posts: 625
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Remember the days when Laker, Virgin, carried a wing mounted 5th spare engine incase of repairs down the route
"Remember the days when Laker, Virgin, carried a wing mounted 5th spare engine incase of repairs down the route".
So are you suggesting that Laker routinely carried a spare 5th engine in case of "problems down the route"? In that case, I would like to know what you are on for I think your memory is somewhat defective.
The only four-engine aeroplanes that Laker ever operated were a couple of Britannia 102s, two Boeing 707-138s (ex-QANTAS and Eagle)and two Boeing 707-351s (ex-Northwest Orient and Cathay). The Britannia was not capable of carrying an extra engine except inside and I do not ever recall seeing one of the 707s ever carrying a spare engine.
Mind you, I was only a DC-10 captain with Laker and we would have been sorely pushed to have carried a 5th engine!
So are you suggesting that Laker routinely carried a spare 5th engine in case of "problems down the route"? In that case, I would like to know what you are on for I think your memory is somewhat defective.
The only four-engine aeroplanes that Laker ever operated were a couple of Britannia 102s, two Boeing 707-138s (ex-QANTAS and Eagle)and two Boeing 707-351s (ex-Northwest Orient and Cathay). The Britannia was not capable of carrying an extra engine except inside and I do not ever recall seeing one of the 707s ever carrying a spare engine.
Mind you, I was only a DC-10 captain with Laker and we would have been sorely pushed to have carried a 5th engine!
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Inverted
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have seen pictures on A.net of a B747 carrying a spare inboard of the No2 Eng. But I think it was a Boeing Company aircraft, not a Commercial airliner.
Actually, its a Qantas. Look just forward of the exhaust cone on Eng 2
Actually, its a Qantas. Look just forward of the exhaust cone on Eng 2
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Devon
Age: 68
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I think airlines dont move engines around so much as they did....mainly because they are more reliable now.
Would I be correct is saying that the Ward Air 747 may have been moving an engine for another carrier. Not sure if all 747s had the wing mounting points to do this
Would I be correct is saying that the Ward Air 747 may have been moving an engine for another carrier. Not sure if all 747s had the wing mounting points to do this
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Iceland
Age: 46
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Wow. You guys know how to drown out a thread. Did any of you read the question that the guy was asking about who started this thread?
Do you know anything about it? No? Then why write something. To many times have I seen threads go so off the point that it just makes reading them boring and tiring.
Hey maybe the Northwest guys where reading some of these posts enroute to MSP....
Do you know anything about it? No? Then why write something. To many times have I seen threads go so off the point that it just makes reading them boring and tiring.
Hey maybe the Northwest guys where reading some of these posts enroute to MSP....
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: East of LGB
Age: 69
Posts: 625
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Wow. You guys know how to drown out a thread. Did any of you read the question that the guy was asking about who started this thread?
Do you know anything about it? No? Then why write something. To many times have I seen threads go so off the point that it just makes reading them boring and tiring.
Do you know anything about it? No? Then why write something. To many times have I seen threads go so off the point that it just makes reading them boring and tiring.
Other than your "reference" to the OP, you added nothing yourself. There's other things to do if we're boring you.