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GO NOW OWNED KY KLM?

Old 28th Feb 2001, 01:55
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Guvnor,

Having enjoyed a FORMAL briefing from the powers that be in both BA and GO, I have to tell you that you are very very wide of the mark, and that your Good authority is no more than the standard City rumour Network.

I wonder if that works, a Capitalists RUmour NeTwork..or CRUNT....

ADC, as I pointed out before, I'm sure you can make your points without resorting to abuse.

Cheers,

H
 
Old 28th Feb 2001, 03:09
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How about this!
Go becomes part of KLM. KLM decide that two low cost airlines based at STN 's one too many. KLM move BUZZ to mainland Europe, GO stays at STN and carries on as before. No-one notices the difference!! QED..
Best rearguards, Rubik 101
 
Old 28th Feb 2001, 12:24
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Hamrah, how long ago was the briefing? The information I have came from someone senior at Waterside within the last week ...

In any case, the primary purpose of the last post was to show that (a) MBOs are commonplace; and (b) they are not a conflict of interest.

I have no axe to grind on this issue - having met a number of the senior Go types (including yourself) thay all seem a nice (and competent) enough bunch of people and I do wish you all well.

Perhaps you could fill us in on the real situation?
 
Old 28th Feb 2001, 14:58
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Guvnor,

I am sure you are aware that I am unable to discuss these briefings in Public for legal reasons, something that was made very clear to us by the Lawyers.


H

[This message has been edited by Hamrah (edited 28 February 2001).]

[This message has been edited by Hamrah (edited 04 March 2001).]
 
Old 28th Feb 2001, 23:36
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[This message has been edited by The Guvnor (edited 04 March 2001).]
 
Old 1st Mar 2001, 07:32
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H, watch yr blood pressure

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Old 1st Mar 2001, 17:59
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Can anyone explain why professionals with good S&P ratings like KLM and BA can't make any money at the low end yet Ryan and Easy can?

What's the secret?

(Or is it a secret...)
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 01:03
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Hamrah

The thing that beats me is that why do you get so worked up whenever someone takes only the slightest pop at Go? What is your interest anyway since you are now the ex Chief Pilot?
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 13:19
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Hamrah,

I could not agree with you less. In the main you pop up over most Go related threads in one guise or another often taking a very defensive stance. This is fair enough but my question still stands, as you are no longer the CP why bother? Surely you now have bigger fish to fry?
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 15:40
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Dogs, if you don't understand why H, who having spent the last three years of his life helping to bring Go Fly from zero B737-300's to 14 (and number 15 is about to be delivered), zero flight-crew to over 150, zero cabin crew to over 250, zero manuals to fully JAA approved, zero training to one of the best training/trained airlines in the business, etc, etc, etc., can't be free to comment on this in here, then it speaks volumes about you.

The fact is that H most certainly knows more about what's going on at Go than the Guvnor, who inspite of his posturing, ever will !

Now could somebody please remind me again of the date the Guvnor said that his airline would commence operations. See: Caledonian Wings is for real!! and just how much the Guvnor has accomplished during the same three year period ?!

Q). Anybody up at PIK seen a fleet of L1011's on the ramp, and sporting the livery of 'Caledonian Wings' ? No, I thought not !
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 16:16
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Well said DA. And DB, Hamrah has to work a three month contract out, and handing over the complex job of CP cannot be done in a day a week or a month. But perhaps you don't know anything about the work of a Chief Pilot.

Anyway, you have to know the real man before you can make any comment. Or didn't you realise that? I'll guarantee if you did, you would have kept your mouth fully closed.
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 18:26
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Devils Advocate - So the start date has been moved back by a year - so what? So has that of Blue Fox and Newlines. A great deal of work has gone into the project and anyone who has ever set up an airline will tell you what can go wrong, will go wrong!

When you've done it, you can scoff...
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 21:41
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Dogs_bollx

I'm guessing that it has something to do with a little thing called PRIDE

Mutt.
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 22:01
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Touch a nerve did I Guvnor ? Oh good !

Ok everybody, hands off the Guv till 1st April 2002 - a date when we'll all be able to come back in here and pilliory him again.

Ps. I'm still laughing......
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 22:44
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Beware all. Methinks Mutt and The guvnor are either one and the same or are closely linked (perhaps incestuously).

Just to toss in my sixpenneth, Hamrah has every reason to be PROUD of what he achieved at GO and every right to defend it against scurrilous attack from the likes of the pathetically under-achieving Guvnor. Furthermore, H will go on and repeat the exercise, and God knows his destination company desperately needs skilled managers of profound integrity.
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 23:06
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I hear whispers that following the dumping of KLM at the altar by Alitalia in favour of Air France, talks between BA and KLM regarding a merger may well be back on again.

Just think - if KLM really did buy Go, then BA would shortly have to go through this whole exercise all over again!

Tilii - kindly stop hijacking threads to try and snipe at people you don't agree with. And I hope you're not insinuating that there is anything wrong with British World - what happened, didn't they even acknowledge your application?
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 23:14
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tilli, you can think all you want about mutt and The Guvnor, I know both and you are million miles out. Hope your nav is better.
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 23:19
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Dear oh dear Guv, you admonish somebody for 'sniping' and then literally in the next sentence you snipe straight back at them; Now talk about the pot calling the kettle black !
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 23:27
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Guvnor

Yes, I am so insinuating. And I sincerely hope H can make a contribution to correcting what is wrong with it.
 
Old 3rd Mar 2001, 23:45
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Tilli,

What did I do to rattle your cage?

My message was not intended to insult or even be derogatory, it was to answer the question of "Why bother" asked by dogs_bollx.

Devils Advocate clearly explained the reasons why Hamrah has the right to be extremely proud, he has achieved something that most of us can only dream of.

Hamrah if you read my message as an insult, I apologize profusely.

Good Night.

Mutt.

(IFR thanks for the vote of confidence.)
 

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