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Old 6th Jun 2009, 12:59
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I love this snippet.

will provide MAG with the opportunity to shape the Identity Card Scheme and assess the potential benefits it may bring to airside workers.
It should read, will provide MAG with the opportunity to shape the Identity Card Scheme and assess the potential benefits it may bring the Government.
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Old 6th Jun 2009, 14:08
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Or

It will allow the Government to shape the ID card scheme, irrespective of any liabilities it brings whilst being a benefit to a Stalinist government.



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Originally Posted by bilderberger
The union won't be able to do anything about the ID Card issue, which (no doubt) is an edict from our EU Masters and must be obeyed....at least by the political pygmies who comprise our so called government.

As far as the Union is concerned it's just another band wagon (to increase membership) which will shortly run into the sand.
Just been filed under..'Another useless post'.
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Old 23rd Jun 2009, 12:28
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ID Cards at Manchester Airport

The Identity and Passport Service will hold some Awareness Events at Manchester Airport on 7th, 8th and 9th July.

There will be "Q&A" sessions.

Places must be reserved in advance. Book your place by following this link:

Identity Card Awareness Events - July 09
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Old 23rd Jun 2009, 21:52
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I've attended two of those sessions.....They end up in stalemate with no one any the wiser......The one thing that did come across is that the Civil Servants don't necessarily agree with what they are saying....In that 'Yes Minister' speak of course..
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Awareness events

I'd encourage everyone to attend the awareness events if they possibly can. It's a public opportunity to question senior managers responsible for progressing the scheme.

I don't expect them to suddenly listen to reason at these sessions, but they must be made to acknowledge the opposition to their plans rather than claiming to be "working constructively with the aviation industry" as is now the case.

A show of apathy is not an option.
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Old 24th Jun 2009, 20:06
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Definitely turn up with a list of questions and some notes to refute the 'standard' answers. Put them on the spot. If you can coordinate with some others so it's not just one person with all the questions and refutations then so much the better, you can bet they'll have their side prepared in advance.
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Government have just said they are abandoning compulsory ID cards for airside workers. Finally!!
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Originally Posted by Airline Tycoon
Government have just said they are abandoning compulsory ID cards for airside workers. Finally!!
Story here...

ID cards will not be compulsory, says Alan Johnson - Telegraph
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 15:02
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Goverment climbdown over airport ID cards

BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Climbdown over airport ID cards
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 15:05
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humble pie

The union won't be able to do anything about the ID Card issue, which (no doubt) is an edict from our EU Masters and must be obeyed....at least by the political pygmies who comprise our so called government.

As far as the Union is concerned it's just another band wagon (to increase membership) which will shortly run into the sand.
Don't you just love it when someone shows such an apathetic and cynical view and then has to eat their words. One thing that always gets me going is this attitude of "nothing can be done so why bother".

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Old 30th Jun 2009, 16:12
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Nut's to all you doubters that said the fight was not worth it and it was a forgone conclusion.....
Collaborators!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great news.

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Old 30th Jun 2009, 16:32
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a note of caution

This may be a tactical u-turn before the next election ( we had a mini-manifesto yesterday). If Labour manages to scrape a win then this may well become compulsory again.


They are spending a lot of taxpayer's money on a 'voluntary' scheme, and this lot like to control and monitor everything.........


You may also get council run airports in Labour controlled areas trying to bring it in for airside workers as an 'additional security measure'.


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Seconded (Call100's comments).

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Old 30th Jun 2009, 16:48
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Well done BALPA. Let's keep up the pressure to ensure this whole madcap ego trip is scrapped completely.
Manchester Airport is one of those which signed up enthusiastically for this scheme. Local rumour has it that at least one of the airport's management members may have had a financial interest in the companies providing the ID and other 'security' infrastructure. Surely such sleaze is not possible in today's Britain ?
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 17:07
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Great News

Great News today but need to keep on our guard as has been said....
Well done all who opposed this awful Stalinist measure, pressure can work. (especially with an election round the corner).
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They are spending a lot of taxpayer's money on a 'voluntary' scheme, and this lot like to control and monitor everything.........
Well, they can't just turn around and ditch the whole thing (especially as cards are dished out to immigrants, wait for the racial harassment cases to appear soon) because then they would have to explain why so much money was wasted on ID cards and the "database". Best leave it to those who are from another country and those who, although blind but can see perfectly, decide it's a jolly good idea to have such a thing or be on the "database" to prop the scheme up as "gentle persuasion" gets used to edge the total numbers of cards upwards until they think they can force everyone to have one. Of course, they know that when they lose the next election then the chance of such a scheme would be over. And someone else has to spend a fortune sorting out the mess (Can't be us wasting all these billions dismantling the scam, we ain't in power any more, guv).
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 18:39
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So, as I understand it, to prove you're a foreigner you have an ID card.

To prove you're not a foreigner, you don't.

Therefore to have no ID proves you are British.

??????????

Reminds me of certain ***************** where you must wear a visible ID as a visitor but not if you are not a visitor (or have just broken in or whatever!).
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 19:29
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Airside ID cards

Article in the Times, is seems that that somehow in the massive ID cars project someone forgot to order card readers, without which any good looking fake will do.
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 19:41
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This may be a tactical u-turn before the next election ( we had a mini-manifesto yesterday). If Labour manages to scrape a win then this may well become compulsory again.
If they scrape a win next time around then there's no hope for anything and we'd be better off leaving the country before they implement it.

It's good that they're slowly rolling back all the crP and hopefully won't have wasted too much of our money by the time they're out of a job.
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