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Old 13th Feb 2009, 19:19
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BA jet landing incident at LCY

Looks like the plane lost a nose wheel or whole nose gear on landing, stopped on the runway and looks like all off safely, still on the runway, nose on the ground, as I type from aircraft which was ready to depart.
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Old 13th Feb 2009, 19:24
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A similiar incident happend around the 4th/5th Feb. That incident involved a RJ100 landing into LCY ex GLA. On that occasion the airfield was closed for over a hour. No one was hurt in that incident
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This was coming in from AMS I believe.
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Old 13th Feb 2009, 19:43
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LCY appears to be very challenging to get right, what with the interesting approach, short runway and all that water waiting for those who stray too far. How many bent aircraft has it had? There was the high-profile 146 that got floated over to the other side of the dock for repairs, and I remember a few more.
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That's scaremongering. I would be surprised if the number of incidents was higher in LCY as opposed to other London airports due to stricter windlimits etc. The runway might be short and the glidepath steeper, that doesn't mean that it's not certified like all other strips of concrete and tarmac.
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Longhitter:

I don't think it's scaremongering. The steeper glidepath probably magnifies small errors due to the descent rate, leading to more bits of bent metal. I'd expect LHR/LGW to have more incidents because they have more traffic, but that isn't the perception I get, not that PPRuNe is going to report everything. However, something upsetting LHR traffic is likely to get noted on here somewhere, simply because it affects a lot more people.
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I've been in and out of LCY a few times as SLF, back in the late 90s. It never felt scary, but the view out the front of the aircraft (FD door left open) was always interesting on short finals. The runway threshold was a long way up the screen until the flare was started.
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Old 13th Feb 2009, 20:05
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BA City Flyer. Not mainline BA. It's a wholly owned subsidiary.
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Pictures on BBC News 24. Looks very sorry for itself in the dark, nose down, with the slides deployed. No reports of any injuries at this stage.
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BBC NEWS | UK | BA jet in airport 'hard landing'

Has one picture at the moment. One or two minor injuries only.
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Old 13th Feb 2009, 20:28
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As an ex 146 driver (5500 hrs on type but not in Europe) my memories are that it had the most forgiving main undercarriage but that the money must have run out when it came to the design of the nose gear.
One needed to be very careful to fly the front of the aircraft gently to the ground after MLG touchdown! Having also been a sim instructor for other types training for LCY it is easy to see how the "NLG delicacy" in conjunction with the steep glidepath could be problematic!
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LCY is an approved airport

LCY is an approved airport for approved aircraft. Occasional incidents will happen.
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Pictures from the scene right here:

http://www.pprune.org/4717382-post395.html
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BBC 10 o'clock news has report, but why don't they say it was British Airways.
Is this PC or something?
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Old 13th Feb 2009, 21:23
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Must not speculate about turbulence and wind shear, we do understand landings at the City are difficult even in conditions like tonight.

The 2150 actual weather shows as calmish wind and good vis

EGLC 132150Z VRB03KT CAVOK 02/01 Q1026=

Well done to all the crew in doing the evacuation safely.
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Old 13th Feb 2009, 21:33
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Perhaps not surprisingly the aussie media are calling it a "Crash landing" !
Airliner crash lands in London | World Breaking News | News.com.au

By that I mean it's what I have come to expect from the media,not that it should be correctly described as that.
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I noticed that the inboard lift spoilers are still deployed, which is odd because they should close automatically when the aircraft loses the no 1 ( I think) hydraulic system, the outer 2 (closed) are run by other system. Just an observation.
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Old 13th Feb 2009, 21:45
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Anyone got the Reg involved - was it the same aircraft that suffered the burst tyre last week?
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Pay as you go FO?
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Old 13th Feb 2009, 22:01
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hardly its a left seat landing only at LCY
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