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CAL 744 in hard landing at DPS after turbulence

Old 23rd Sep 2008, 01:53
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10,000'.......or 200?

Macau Daily Times - 30 hurt in turbulence on China Airlines flight says airline

30 injured because of clear-air-turbulence - Taiwan News Online

Both report an "up and down motion" of 200' or 60m lasting about 10 seconds.

Seat belts lights on as crew had already detected turbulence on radar.
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Old 23rd Sep 2008, 02:41
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I agree with Vonkluffen and ACMS as well, true CAT is not that common in that area, however large CB's and TS certainly are! Only takes a few moments of inattention and ' WHACK ' ( so I'm told ;-) ) . Be careful out there!

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Old 24th Sep 2008, 03:40
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"Seat belts lights on as crew had already detected turbulence on radar"

can someone tell me how do you detect CAT on your radar?
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Old 24th Sep 2008, 03:51
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You can't see CLEAR air turb.

They must have seen water drop intensity colours and interpreted their radar accordingly.
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Why would any pilot cover up the windshield with newspaper or meal tray??? What's the point of doing this?
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According to newspaper reports CAL has just done it again on a flight from HKG to BKK. Several pax and crew injured. I find it hard to believe it was CAT. As others have said, it's far more likely they flew through the top of a CB.
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The newspaper is there to stop rays from the sun damaging delicate skin and eyes
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covering up the window

I'm not a pilot. It seems a really unsafe thing to do to cover the windshields. Are the Boings and Airbuses and traffic control now so advanced now as to render the eyes irrelevant in flying?
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Absolutely not!!
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Old 4th Oct 2008, 14:46
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Seat belts lights on as crew had already detected turbulence on radar
I believe the majority of these "unexpected" turbulence encounters are not real CAT at all but the crew have flown through a CB top. No way are they going to admit to inattention to the tilt or gain controls or they were failing to operate the radar correctly. Mysterious sudden CAT encounter covers a lot of sins and no one can prove otherwise.
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Slats One, are you sure about the "scheduled service" flight home of the VC10? I flew with David (Flash) Philips, the Captain of the Andes upset flight, many times in later years on the DC10, and I believe he told me the aeroplane was patched up, but empty-ferried home to LGW where the true extent of the damage was then discovered.
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