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2 airliners nearly collide over Caribbean

Old 1st Sep 2008, 00:58
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B777FD - I thought the article said the flights were 'head on', but it actually says 'heading towards' and then mentions 'intersecting routes', which indicates a crossing airway(IMO).

That misstatement by myself lead me to wonder what routing the Aeroflot a/c was on, as in "if true about being head on, why was he at FL330."

However, the primary altitude for a/c in the WATRS is odd for southbound flights and even for northbound flights. We're saying the same thing, east is odd, but in the WATRS that equates to "southbound is odd".
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Old 1st Sep 2008, 05:01
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it wasn't Aeroflot
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If the Delta route was as depicted in the FlightAware link, the TRM from DARUX to THANK on the WATRS airway L456 is 182 degrees - an even level in my opinion. Same for A523 which is predominantly 199 TRM. Not all WATRS airways are odd southbound! That is all I am saying. I agree about the SLOP necessity though.
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Been flying WATRS, on and off, for the last 16 yrs. Southbound, even on courses of 184 degrees, 193 degrees, is odd. Northbound is even. Flights towards BDA airspace are odd, and regardless of the course(182, 184, etc) are still odd south of BDA.

Are all of the airways that way? Havn't flown all of them since the realignment but I've yet to see an required altitude change to correspond with a course change that had us flying at the 'wrong' altitude.

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And that could be the cause of this incident.
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