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AF 744 off runway at Montreal

Old 26th Aug 2008, 23:37
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AF 744 off runway at Montreal

Just reported that an Air France 744, operating as AF 346, arriving from CDG, ran off runway 24R on landing; no reports of injuries.
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I'm heading to the airport right now! will try to take some pictures!
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An Air France jet has skidded off the runway at Montreal's Trudeau

Air France flight skids off runway in Montreal airport


Canwest News Service

Published: Tuesday, August 26, 2008
An Air France jet has skidded off the runway at Montreal's Trudeau International airport this afternoon, but there is no word yet on damage or injuries, Montreal police confirm.

Air France jumbo skids off Montreal runway
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 00:03
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Doesn't look tres serieuse; all pax (491!) are being evacuated by buses, rather than slides; no apparent damage to the avion.

Le phew!

Un boeing d'Air France fait une sortie de piste - LCN - Régional
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Fox News showing live footage. Does not look too bad. Reporting 500 PAX, sounds a bit high.
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I saw that plane over my house just before the outer marker while I was cooking juicy burgers. Everything normal; plane that is.

It's a plane hard to miss due to it's size and noise.

Landed at 148 kts gnd speed (flightaware)

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MONTREAL - An Air France Boeing 747 arriving from Paris skidded off the runway at Montreal's Trudeau International airport after it landed Tuesday afternoon.

"The plane overshot the runway when it landed and got stuck in the grass," said Laurent Gingras of Montreal police. "There were no injuries."

Video of the airplane shows no signs of major damage.

Emergency vehicles surrounded the jumbo jet at the airport as crews worked around the aircraft, which was stuck in the grass beside the runway.

Some 500 passengers were on the large-bodied plane, and were being taken off the plane by emergency services.

The airport remains open and television footage showed planes continuing to take off and land.


© Canwest News Service 2008
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Not quite AF358... but...



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Old 27th Aug 2008, 01:44
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LiveATC, starts after 15:00,

(quick translation)
ATC "Westjet 204, clear landing 24R, traffic is being cleared"
ATC "AFR ...cleared 24R and B2, hold short 28 (ah ah)",
AFR "AFR, we have entered the grass, engines idling, call emergency services"
ATC "Westjest, pull-up climb 3000, traffic on runway"
AFR "AFR, do you see smoke (or fire)"
ATC "negative"
ATC "trucks on the way"

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http://archive-server.liveatc.net/cy...2008-2130Z.mp3

(yulaviation)
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 03:25
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Flight Detent - LOL!

Must have been the weather conditions - The dreaded 30 SM approaches.

YUL

270007 270000Z 26003KT 30SM FEW240 18/10 A3008 RMK CI0 SLP1
262307 262300Z 26004KT 30SM SCT240 21/10 A3007 RMK CI1 SLP1
262207 262200Z 27004KT 30SM FEW240 22/10 A3007 RMK CI1 SLP1
262107 262100Z 26008KT 30SM SCT240 21/10 A3007 RMK CI2 SLP1
261907 261900Z 28007KT 30SM BKN240 20/09 A3010 RMK CI2 SLP1
261807 261800Z 27008KT 30SM BKN240 19/09 A3010 RMK CI2 CONT
261707 261700Z 27009KT 30SM FEW210 BKN240 18/09 A3012 RMK C
261607 261600Z 29010KT 30SM FEW030 SCT240 18/09 A3013 RMK C
261511 261500Z 04002KT 30SM FEW035 SCT240 17/08 A3013 RMK C
261407 261400Z 35008KT 30SM FEW210 BKN240 16/08 A3013 RMK C
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Not the old hand mic cable jammed in the nws tiller trick.....
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Not the old hand mic cable jammed in the nws tiller trick.....
Or an improperly stowed window shade ...
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 14:47
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AF seems to have problem landing in Canada !
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 16:21
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No It's spelt Vin-Rouge ...How did the plane start turning into the grass...theres plenty of runway ahead
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 18:11
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Friends,
here comes something completely off topic.

I enjoy reading Pprune, not only for the discussions, but also for the humor in many of the comments.

Earlier today this thread deviated into the difficulty with different languages at airports, totally irrelevant for the topic, as was commented by a number of posts:

One stating that the thread was of topic with the focus on language, and his wifes theory of what happened probably was the best so far, namely that he was turning to avoid a cat

This was followed by a post saying: Maybe it was a 'chat'

This more or less made my day, and I was digging in to pprune now to see what the follow up's of this would be. Of course the mod's were right to remove the of topic posts, but I would have liked the continuation of this.

Safe flying

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but I would have liked the continuation of this
Gone to JB "Yet another stupid Franco/English spotters party "
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 18:30
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A few pics

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Old 27th Aug 2008, 21:54
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Anyone here a tire burning expert.

Maybe #4 engine reverse was stuck at full rev thrust and / or #1 stuck at high forward thrust ?

Also, looks like left-port side brakes were braking less than right side, and the nose wheel may have temporarily been stuck massively pointing right.

As if left brakes failed or the right brakes locked up.

Surprised we don`t see anti-skid pulses in the markings, maybe it failed.

Also note the nose wheel tracks are not identical, the port one is wider than the right-starboard.
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Wide-angle lens effect I think alph2z.

Trompe l'oeuil as they say.
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That's no wide angle effect I'm afraid.

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Old 28th Aug 2008, 00:18
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Also note the nose wheel tracks are not identical, the port one is wider than the right-starboard.
Port tire greater scrubbing due very high angle (turned to the right) of the nosewheel relative to the direction of the aircraft, I think.
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