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BA Plane Off Runway In Durban

Old 18th Jun 2008, 15:52
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Don't know about that Shady - easyJet have - sorry had - The Webs favourite airline as their slogan for many years

Don't think Ryanair will be anyones favourite anything for a long time

Good luck Ryanair getting a Union - its events like these and Ba038 that make you realise one day you might need one
 
Old 18th Jun 2008, 16:29
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The weather report as indicated for DUR today bore no resemblance to what was actually happening there - very heavy rain and winds gusting 37 knots all over the place. It caught pretty much everyone napping as most aircraft did not have additional fuel and high-tailed it back to JNB after one approach.
The weather radar was showing significant areas of heavy rain and turbulence and aircraft were reporting 'severe' (always subjective) turbulence on the approach. DUR can have occasional periods of extreme weather and this morning was no exception.
BA Comair have an excellent safety record and it was just very unfortunate that this happened; we can be thankful that there were no injuries. Commiserations to the pilots - not one of us is immune to this sort of event and it highlights the dangers that lurk around every corner in this job.
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 16:59
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I second that. the day you become complacent is the day it will come round and bit you in the a#$e. Again at least no one was hurt apart from a little pride.
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 18:48
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I'm surprised....

that no one has queried the validity and accuracy of SA Weather Service TAF's and METARS. These have been at best "thumb suck" for the past thirty years (as long as I can remember)! May the "Investigator" address this problem......
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 19:44
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Grrr

YOU KNOW WHAT!!! I'm disgaced that all most of you guys seam to worry about is "BA THIS BA THAT", should we not think about the passengers and crew who kept this bird in one condition. Make you're minds up are we pilot's or newspaper editors. Not the later I take it..We worked hard for our wings lets be grown up.
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 11:43
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UKD, you'd best hope the Rainboe doesn't read that post !!
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 12:25
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I'm puzzled

Based solely on the above photo - how does an aircraft end up at one end of a runway (I presume) pointing the other way?

Oh! by the way. It looks like a BA aircraft to me.
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 12:30
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In this article, a passenger says the aircraft turned 180 degrees on the runway before stopping:

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?s...0615188C906694
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 12:46
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Now thats a scary looking plane - old cigar engines.
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 12:58
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Youve no idea how fun they are to fly!
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 13:24
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Comment from another expert.

From article in News24:

Another passenger, who did not want to be named, said he thought a mistake by the pilot caused the accident. "I'm busy with a private pilot's licence and the guy landed completely wrong."
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 13:29
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From the article:

""As we landed, there were pockets of wind and it was raining. The plane started to sway and turned 180 degrees. The wheel went on to the grass and the plane stopped."

Now I don't know the runway layout, but is it not possible that the crew needed almost all of the runway to stop and then had to do the 180 to turn back. During the 180 the aircraft skidded and couldn't complete the turn within the runway boundary.
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 13:39
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Weather

Looking at that photo, The sky looks pretty black in the backround.

Looks like he rolled out to the end and slipped off the side in the wet doing a 180. I cant remember Durbs too well. I think one end has a turning pad, but not the other??

Anyway, very glad no one hurt. There, but for the grace of God..........
 
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Google Earth shows a turnaround at the approach end of 06 but none at the approach end of 24.
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 15:57
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Do you see anything just below that left wing? Maybe a drainage system?

Also, which runway was the pilot landing in?
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 17:19
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The photo looks like it is taken from the north, looking south. By all accounts they were landing on 06, reached the rwy end and did the 180 turn (contolled or not), and ended up on the grass facing 240. There is no turning pad at this end.
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 18:09
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From the Currant Bun

An example of British journalism from one of the largest circulation rags:

"BA jet in crash-landing terror

A BRITISH Airways jet twists sideways on the runway yesterday after a terrifying crash-landing.

The Boeing 737-200 skidded into Durban, South Africa, in heavy rain after being delayed in Johannesburg.

Emergency crews rushed to aid the jet, carrying 87 passengers and six crew.

One British traveller said: "We thought we were going to die. It felt like we were coming in too high and the pilot suddenly forced the plane down, slamming on the brakes."

One passenger on the flight, operated by US-based Comair, was slightly hurt. BA said it was investigating."

Journalism at its highest standards.
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Another view

For what it may be worth I read the following on a local website regarding the ' incident ': An airline pilot travelling as a passenger on the BA plane is reported to have said the following, " The pilot came in too fast and landed half way down the runway. He then applied full reverse thrust to slow the plane down. When we reached the end of the runway he swung the plane left to avoid running onto the grass. This caused the plane to slide sideways onto the grass. This resulted in the left undercarriage collapsing causing the plane to become stuck at the end of the runway."

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Old 19th Jun 2008, 20:02
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Originally Posted by Sonic Bam
An example of British journalism from one of the largest circulation rags:

"BA jet in crash-landing terror

A BRITISH Airways jet twists sideways on the runway yesterday after a terrifying crash-landing.

The Boeing 737-200 skidded into Durban, South Africa, in heavy rain after being delayed in Johannesburg.

Emergency crews rushed to aid the jet, carrying 87 passengers and six crew.

One British traveller said: "We thought we were going to die. It felt like we were coming in too high and the pilot suddenly forced the plane down, slamming on the brakes."

One passenger on the flight, operated by US-based Comair, was slightly hurt. BA said it was investigating."
Can anyone tell me what is factually incorrect about this? or is this just another dig at people doing their job by people that should know better
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