Ryanair on grass in Poland - Taxi incident

[Capt Ted Crilly]

hey slim

hey limp shoddy,

what is your take on it then?????

indulge us and speculate a little as to what you think might have happened???

[sphinx888]

Photos:

http://www.lublinek-emig.com/samoloty/08-04-29/

[dumdumbrain]

To the person who wrote this

1. Rush rush rush rush culture all the time.
2. Intimidation by management
3. Very low hours guys flying together ie 3001/301
4. Poor level of English throughout many crews
5. Low morale
6. Pay cut for FO's
7. Get the job done on time or your in trouble
8. Promotion to captain way to fast...2800 hrs sign here and here are your stripes.
9. Don't speak out or you will be sacked
10. MOL


*unless you actually know the full facts i would shut up! You are talking about two peoples careers. I have actually flown with the Capt on this flight and i can tell you he has been flying for many, many years and came from a Major trans atlantic airline. And if you really was a professional you wouldnt make such silly comments!

Loyal cabin crew from EMA

[Steve73]

Flaps15 - what's your level of experience then ?
I know the guy in the LHS on this flight and i'll bet you he's got more time in the Ockham hold than you've got total.
But don't let that put you off typing your two lines of ill informed drivel.
Mind you, you can probably only type with one hand as the other one is busy elsewhere - tosser.

[Tofu Racing]

dumdumbrain:



*unless you actually know the full facts i would shut up! You are talking about two peoples careers. ...

What are full facts then? fact number 1 is that the a/c is off the rwy, during taxi for T/O. In my company, it would be serious Capt fault. (Capt, because Capt is always responsible).

Also telling one to shut up is very rude, if you didn't know that.

[Abusing_the_sky]

for some of you here, "the little boys"

...... and you come out with all these speculations because...??!!???
First of all none of you lot was there at the time the incident happened. Most of you have no idea what Lodz APT is like or ever been anywhere near it for that matter. Shouldn't we wait for an IAA investigation before we slag off the pilots??
Mind you some of you have 3 seconds flying experience but you think you're all that and you have the right to comment on an incident like you are experts. How about back the off, wait for more results, then show off your so called "knowledge" regarding flying. I am cabin crew but for sure i know more about flying a damn 737-800 than some of you on this thread.
Come on, bring it on little boys

[dumdumbrain]

Oh so you have your own company,, well done

And rude? well you should try meeting me when im off loading a late pax.

For the full facts you will have to wait for the IAA.

By the way you one them people who sit at the end of the runway and think you can run an airline better? Hhhmmmmmm

[eastern wiseguy]

What an ill mannered thread.

For the full facts you will have to wait for the IAA.

Surely the Polish authorities carry out the investigation here?. Did ATC not warn them? They do SEEM to have strayed quite a distance off the tarmac.

[The Real Slim Shady]

Ted Crilly

My take?????

Have you been to Lodz?

Do you carry a Polish AIP on your aircraft to demonstrate an immaculate knowledge of every runway in Poland? Or like the rest of we mere mortals rely on the Jepp?

Now one of my, many, faults is that I don't suffer fools gladly; Ted Crilly, stop being foolish.

[The Real Slim Shady]

Ted

My apologies.

You worked for FR so obviously have huge experience of Lodz.

Perhaps you would explain to the rest of the community the difficulties associated with operating there.

Thanx

[TheRedVonBaron]

Dear EMA cabin crew.

You are doing no favours to your colleagues by coming on to a proffessional pilots rumour network and slagging off your colleagues fellow proffessionals. Im sure ur embarrassing your friends, and your certainly letting yourself down as well as the company you work for.

Best of luck to those involved in the incident. Sh!t happens.

[Glamgirl]

A couple of the posts on here from people who are obviously ryr staff have given me even more reasons to not fly with them (as if I needed another reason...).

The tone and content of their posts are awful! God only knows how they treat the pax, if they can write with such rudeness.

I know very little about the -800 and I've never been to the airport in question. I do, however, know about certain policies in certain companies, but it's been commented on so many times so I won't repeat.

Now, can we play nicely please and at least stop the abusive language?

Gg

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

As the originator of this thread I was fearful that it would turn into a mindless Ryanair bashing issue. I hoped that my thread title and initial post would perhaps minimize the amount of RYANAIR OFF RUNWAY - INJURIES NOT YET KNOWN! replies and speculation.

This was a simple taxiing incident with minimal damage and drama made by a normal crew on a normal day. It could happen to anyone.

Necks in people.

WWW

[dumdumbrain]

Oh come off it, how many of the users on here are actually pilots? And be honest

[Abusing_the_sky]

Baron

We are supporting our dear crew involved in the incident. I just personally think that some of these posts are either discriminating (the "irish" comment) or shouldn't be posted at all. Nor have i ever been named a "monkey" because i work for FR.
As you said, sh!t happens, even to the best of us....

[mason]

There is some people here who are so bitter and twisted i can hardly believe it ,the minute there is an incident with Ryanair they jump the gun
rush rush culture thats the problem ,
well being bitter wont do you any good get on with your lives when the facts come out then debate who's at fault.
And i would like to say well done to FR cabin crew for showing there support shows more of a united company than people would like to make out .

[TheRedVonBaron]

I respect what you are trying to do in defending a colleague and friend. However, there is a way to do it, and I personally dont think the way you are doing it, is helping anyone. Not you, not ryr and particularily not your friends and colleagues.

I wouldnt mind the "irish" joke. Any irish person I know would see it for what it is, pure banter.

The Baron, irish, former ryr pilot

[stev]

Well im sorry for the lads in question im sure their feeling great at the moment about their careers in this buisness. Its a sad fact of life when the **** hits the fan we're the scape goats, always guilty till proven innocent no matter what airline your with thats right all those idiot Nigels out their, your no exception and no airline is infallable. I happen to know that as a Capt in RYR i dont tolerate
1 rush
2 min fuel
3 rushed approaches
4 lack of training
5 etc etc
and all the other sh**te that people wright on these pages.

Fact: FR has been recognised by the major players and by god could it be the infallable CAA as one of the best training organisations working in the UK. If you dont believe scroll through some Flight Int arcives. Any body on this forum who knows A O'S will know what prof training org they run.
I know FR could be better and theirs merits to the Unuion argument but battering the pilots for some of the draw backs of the org really smells a bit if you ask me.

[The Real Slim Shady]

Glamgirl

Whatever you may think about FR we are people: we do actually care about each other and our passengers.

Bashing FR is easy: the truth of the matter is that bashing BA is left to the media, not PPrune. It's like bashing Silverjet; do a good job and get the living daylights slagged out of you. screw up, like T5, and SHHHHHHHH!!! The sound of silence!

[The Real Slim Shady]

Dear Mr / Ms Moderator

I note that you have removed the post from Countdown calling me, and my colleagues, "Ryanair Monkeys".

Nevertheless, it is a tad harsh: may we expect an apology from the individual?

TRSS