Pilot ejects as RAF jet crashes
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Pilot ejects as RAF jet crashes
here's the link:
<a href="http://uk.news.yahoo.com/020215/80/cscj1.html" target="_blank">http://uk.news.yahoo.com/020215/80/cscj1.html</a>
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/wales/newsid_1821000/1821998.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/wales/newsid_1821000/1821998.stm</a>
Bad news on such a nice day <img src="frown.gif" border="0">
[ 15 February 2002: Message edited by: Bloody long way down ]</p>
<a href="http://uk.news.yahoo.com/020215/80/cscj1.html" target="_blank">http://uk.news.yahoo.com/020215/80/cscj1.html</a>
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/wales/newsid_1821000/1821998.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/wales/newsid_1821000/1821998.stm</a>
Bad news on such a nice day <img src="frown.gif" border="0">
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OK so what ?
It happens every month, in UK or other countries
What is the part of rumor, air-transport related information or debate in this?
Or airline pilots would like to comment events from another world ? <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">
It happens every month, in UK or other countries
What is the part of rumor, air-transport related information or debate in this?
Or airline pilots would like to comment events from another world ? <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">
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Recceguy,. .I didn't realise that an aircrash wasn't worth discussing on an aviation website just because he was military.
I detect a bit of a chip on your shoulder....ever been turned down by the RAF?
I detect a bit of a chip on your shoulder....ever been turned down by the RAF?
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Tigerchap:
those phrases are standard terms for ejection injuries.
the pilot will have a sore back due to compression of the vertebra, but most who suffer this continue to fly ejection seat equipped a/c.
those phrases are standard terms for ejection injuries.
the pilot will have a sore back due to compression of the vertebra, but most who suffer this continue to fly ejection seat equipped a/c.
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Christs Chin
I confirm, there is a military forum for this - or I am going to inundate this forum with accident releases of all the western world Air Forces
And also, to answer your question, I flew Hawk, Jaguar, Tornado, and F16 in exchange - enough for you ?
I confirm, there is a military forum for this - or I am going to inundate this forum with accident releases of all the western world Air Forces
And also, to answer your question, I flew Hawk, Jaguar, Tornado, and F16 in exchange - enough for you ?
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While we are off-topic, Indiana, the song is Oh Well from Fleetwood Mac's 1970 album Then Play On. One of Peter Green's classics.
Original topic covered on the Mil Forum.
Original topic covered on the Mil Forum.
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So Recceguy...not good enough to join the brown warrior master race then? 
Whether this is mil related or not, it is a matter of general aviation interest, so why shouldn't it be here, it qualifies for this forum under the heading "News".
Whether this is mil related or not, it is a matter of general aviation interest, so why shouldn't it be here, it qualifies for this forum under the heading "News".
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recceguy
Hope I might never be stuck on an island with you.
Lighten up man. Here I was suspecting my employer and/or wife was making me a tad depressed.
If you are crew I would love to witness the CRM.
Take a deep breath and a chill pill, kick the dog or pat your wife, irrespective save your agro for a worthy retort.
Hope I might never be stuck on an island with you.
Lighten up man. Here I was suspecting my employer and/or wife was making me a tad depressed.
If you are crew I would love to witness the CRM.
Take a deep breath and a chill pill, kick the dog or pat your wife, irrespective save your agro for a worthy retort.
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I was going to post on the Military forum on this accident, but as it's here....
The missus and I have agreed to disagree on whether a military pilot should bang out if he's over land. My own viewpoint is that if the aircraft can be safely left to hit the ground so as not to obviously endanger life, then out you go.
She, on the other hand, is of the opinion that he should stay in just in case the aircraft should change course, and go in with it, probably to be killed.
I should add that I was an Air Force kid (Dad retired in 1978 after a long and successful career) whereas she has never known service life.
As far as I'm aware, there have been very few instances of Military aircraft in Europe or elsewhere in the developed world destroying civilian lives when the pilot ejected safely, but would be interested to hear of any occurrence. I doubt it would change my dear wife's mind, as very little has, over the years!
Perhaps we should move this thread to Military Aircrew, Danny?
The missus and I have agreed to disagree on whether a military pilot should bang out if he's over land. My own viewpoint is that if the aircraft can be safely left to hit the ground so as not to obviously endanger life, then out you go.
She, on the other hand, is of the opinion that he should stay in just in case the aircraft should change course, and go in with it, probably to be killed.
I should add that I was an Air Force kid (Dad retired in 1978 after a long and successful career) whereas she has never known service life.
As far as I'm aware, there have been very few instances of Military aircraft in Europe or elsewhere in the developed world destroying civilian lives when the pilot ejected safely, but would be interested to hear of any occurrence. I doubt it would change my dear wife's mind, as very little has, over the years!
Perhaps we should move this thread to Military Aircrew, Danny?
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my goodness.there have been several.. .what do you want them to do? perhaps read these pages before considering abandoning? you have to understand that we are talking seconds to make the decision here.I am reminded of the press 'stayed with the aircraft so as to avoid the school' cliche. <img src="frown.gif" border="0">
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I'm with you all the way on this one, mate....IF the pilot has the option, which in an F-16, Tonka or similar he probably doesn't, cause they could just come apart on you if they get distressed down in the boiler room - and I can't see the point of losing the best witness to an accident just because there may be a house within five miles!
The only accident I can remember where the aircraft turned back to a populated area was a Hunter, years ago, which the pilot flew out to sea, then after the ejection, it turned around and crashed in a Cornish village - but I don't recall any fatalities. It just bugs me severely when my spouse sets off on this one whenever a military jet crashes, and the pilot escapes with his life!
The only accident I can remember where the aircraft turned back to a populated area was a Hunter, years ago, which the pilot flew out to sea, then after the ejection, it turned around and crashed in a Cornish village - but I don't recall any fatalities. It just bugs me severely when my spouse sets off on this one whenever a military jet crashes, and the pilot escapes with his life!
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You might mention in your house that men (and women) seldom choose to abandon aircraft over which they have full control. There was a time when RATs were fitted to enable limited control following engine failure in single engine UK military aircraft. Then we were told to remove them from the ones I flew in order to reduce the cost to the taxpayer.
You might mention in your house that men (and women) seldom choose to abandon aircraft over which they have full control. There was a time when RATs were fitted to enable limited control following engine failure in single engine UK military aircraft. Then we were told to remove them from the ones I flew in order to reduce the cost to the taxpayer.
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All of you
When it's time to leave believe me you leave !
And for the record, there has been some occurence (I know three of them) of the aircraft deciding to continue logging some hours after the driver left...
Now for some of you, I promise you will get some threads like
"belgian alpha-jet down". ."Dutch F16 in the sea". ."two french Mirage collide". ."RAF jaguar aborts take-off". ."spanish F4 crash"
you will have deserve it
When it's time to leave believe me you leave !
And for the record, there has been some occurence (I know three of them) of the aircraft deciding to continue logging some hours after the driver left...
Now for some of you, I promise you will get some threads like
"belgian alpha-jet down". ."Dutch F16 in the sea". ."two french Mirage collide". ."RAF jaguar aborts take-off". ."spanish F4 crash"
you will have deserve it
Dog Tired
and: only from my failing memory -no google- the gnat at valley,landed on the beach and we used the instruments salvaged in the groundschool to teach the newcomers;the F4 in scandahooliganland (single engine failure and the good engine shut down, possibly),the harrier over the wisbech area about '72. there must have been many more.. .I chose not to leave mine because we were still in biz at the time. we all hung on and got on the ground. no medals though. <img src="frown.gif" border="0">
