serious damage : Air Algerie 738 on landing
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Air Algerie 738 seriously damaged landing at Setif
I searched thru the forum and I saw no extra information about this incident :
Setif, Air Algerie Boeing 737 800 flight from Paris AH1143 , heavy landing on front L/G
the only information available was in french, either this link
http://www.crash-aerien.com/forum/pn...ie-vt6709.html
or this one
http://www.rcoco.com/viewtopic.php?t=31667
given the actual condition of the aircraft....some wrinkles won't be ironed easily ! Ferry flight may not be an option, either ?
picture withdrawn : Algeria being quite a secretive country, the author requested removal..... sorry
Setif, Air Algerie Boeing 737 800 flight from Paris AH1143 , heavy landing on front L/G
the only information available was in french, either this link
http://www.crash-aerien.com/forum/pn...ie-vt6709.html
or this one
http://www.rcoco.com/viewtopic.php?t=31667
given the actual condition of the aircraft....some wrinkles won't be ironed easily ! Ferry flight may not be an option, either ?
picture withdrawn : Algeria being quite a secretive country, the author requested removal..... sorry
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My French ain't brilliant, but is this another incident that calls the suitability of the runway for the scheduled operation into question? This time possibly short, hot and high?
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It was just a matter of time before Boeing ran out of sevens. The French I read in the ref. implies to me that there was debris on the runway, possibly from a Citroen, a 2CV. Tire chunks. I think Marcel was trying to arrest sink with throttle, and missed the levers.
On the links given by Keskildi, it also suggests that there may be wing damage as well as the fuselage skin wrinkling obvious in the photo.
Two runway lengths are quoted: one being 2400m and the other 1925m - don't know which is correct. Airfield elevation is given as being 3360ft AMSL.
I couldn't find any reference in those reports to debris on the runway, just possible damage to the aircraft from nose gear debris, but perhaps I have missed it.
Two runway lengths are quoted: one being 2400m and the other 1925m - don't know which is correct. Airfield elevation is given as being 3360ft AMSL.
I couldn't find any reference in those reports to debris on the runway, just possible damage to the aircraft from nose gear debris, but perhaps I have missed it.
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data Setif Airport DAAS/QSF
http://www.al-nasir.com/www/PVA/Libr...FIF_ID=AG89748
elevation 3360.00 ft 1024.078 m
runway 09/27 6315 x 125 feet
LDA : http://www.the-airport-guide.com/run...?runways_id=93
elevation 3360.00 ft 1024.078 m
runway 09/27 6315 x 125 feet
LDA : http://www.the-airport-guide.com/run...?runways_id=93
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Looks like the 500m runway extension at the east end was half blacked over with the first few layers of asphalt when Google Earth last flew over .... maybe 250m of it or even all of it's been recently opened?
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Load it with extreme aft C of G, tail heavy, and it will undue the krinkle and no one will know!
Unbelievable! and I suppose nothing was put in the tech log!
Wasn't there a Vietnam Airlines B767 in a similar state, somewhere? I'm sure I have seen a picture of this B767 a few years ago.
Unbelievable! and I suppose nothing was put in the tech log!
Wasn't there a Vietnam Airlines B767 in a similar state, somewhere? I'm sure I have seen a picture of this B767 a few years ago.
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Boeing Aero mag article from a while ago...
Whilst not commenting about the actual cause of the incident (which could be pretty varied as we all know), the picture looks similar to an incident described in this Boeing Aero magazine article
If you scroll down and click the link to Fig 1 you'll see what I mean.
If you scroll down and click the link to Fig 1 you'll see what I mean.
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apparently from Sniff's article, it doesn't have to be ... main gear landing followed by 'overderotation and hard nosegear contact' would seem to suffice
If such damage has been predictable on this type for 40 years then how many 737s still flying have "nearly rippled & snapped" on occasion(s) and are getting fatigued in ways we haven't yet noticed or predicted?
If such damage has been predictable on this type for 40 years then how many 737s still flying have "nearly rippled & snapped" on occasion(s) and are getting fatigued in ways we haven't yet noticed or predicted?