American 757 diverted - smoke in cabin
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Maybe it is related?
NTSB concerned about potential for cockpit fire in some Boeing jetshttp://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/a...ves/121251.asp
"The Safety Board is very concerned that the ADs originally scheduled to be issued as early as September 2004 still have not been issued. The Board considers any kind of fire and/or smoke in the cockpit to be a serious issue that could affect other aircraft systems, lead to a loss of visibility, provide a distraction, or incapacitate the crew and possibly lead to an accident.
Therefore, the National Transportation Safety Board recommends that the Federal Aviation Administration:
Complete the process begun in 2004 to approve the service bulletin for the installation of the redesigned windshield heat terminal block on Boeing 767 airplanes. (A-07-49)
Issue airworthiness directives to replace the windshield heat terminal block on all Boeing 747, 757, 767, and 777 airplanes in accordance with the Boeing service bulletins. (A-07-50)"
NTSB concerned about potential for cockpit fire in some Boeing jetshttp://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/a...ves/121251.asp
"The Safety Board is very concerned that the ADs originally scheduled to be issued as early as September 2004 still have not been issued. The Board considers any kind of fire and/or smoke in the cockpit to be a serious issue that could affect other aircraft systems, lead to a loss of visibility, provide a distraction, or incapacitate the crew and possibly lead to an accident.
Therefore, the National Transportation Safety Board recommends that the Federal Aviation Administration:
Complete the process begun in 2004 to approve the service bulletin for the installation of the redesigned windshield heat terminal block on Boeing 767 airplanes. (A-07-49)
Issue airworthiness directives to replace the windshield heat terminal block on all Boeing 747, 757, 767, and 777 airplanes in accordance with the Boeing service bulletins. (A-07-50)"
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Because just occasionally you get one like Swissair 111. I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was up there than up there wishing I was on the ground...
Why the fuss over a plane with smoke in the cockpit? UA had one a couple of days ago in SEA....it happens fairly frequently.
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I have had two outer panes shatter but never an inner one letting glass in the cockpit.
Made it to KROA runway in about 12 minutes, and there was already a television crew waiting on us. I think folks monitor ATC frequencies like they listen to police bands.
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Check out the links to photos of the window and the heating block at the bottom...
The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating an
incident that occurred on January 30, 2008, in which an
American Airlines B757-200, en route from San Juan, Puerto
Rico to Philadelphia, diverted to West Palm Beach, Florida,
and made an emergency landing after the cockpit filled with
smoke.
Of the 139 passengers and 7 crewmembers, several were
transported to the hospital for smoke inhalation. All have
since been released. No other injuries were reported.
According to reports from the crew, while at cruise altitude
over the Atlantic Ocean, smoke began emanating from the
window heating system connected to the first officer's
windshield. The crew donned oxygen masks and smoke goggles
and diverted to Palm Beach International Airport. During
the descent to land, the inner pane of the first officer's
windshield shattered. The crew continued the descent and
landed without further incident.
The digital flight data recorder (DFDR) was downloaded and
sent to the NTSB laboratories in Washington. The affected
windshield, which remained in one piece, and the heating
unit were removed from the aircraft and will undergo a
detailed analysis.
While the cause of this particular incident is unknown and
remains under investigation, the NTSB is aware of five
events between 2004 and 2006 in which smoke, and in some
cases fire, were reported to have originated from window
heating systems in B-757 aircraft.
Based on these incidents, in September 2007 the NTSB issued
two Safety Recommendations to the Federal Aviation
Administration (FAA) asking the agency to require the
installation of redesigned window heating systems in all
Boeing 747, 757, 767, and 777 series aircraft. These Safety
Recommendations have yet to be implemented by the FAA.
The Safety Recommendations are available at
http://www.ntsb.gov/Recs/letters/2007/A07_49_50.pdf
View of cracked windshield from inside flight deck
http://www.ntsb.gov/Pressrel/2008/im...57-cockpit.jpg
Heating unit on affected windshield
http://www.ntsb.gov/Pressrel/2008/im...ater_block.jpg
The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating an
incident that occurred on January 30, 2008, in which an
American Airlines B757-200, en route from San Juan, Puerto
Rico to Philadelphia, diverted to West Palm Beach, Florida,
and made an emergency landing after the cockpit filled with
smoke.
Of the 139 passengers and 7 crewmembers, several were
transported to the hospital for smoke inhalation. All have
since been released. No other injuries were reported.
According to reports from the crew, while at cruise altitude
over the Atlantic Ocean, smoke began emanating from the
window heating system connected to the first officer's
windshield. The crew donned oxygen masks and smoke goggles
and diverted to Palm Beach International Airport. During
the descent to land, the inner pane of the first officer's
windshield shattered. The crew continued the descent and
landed without further incident.
The digital flight data recorder (DFDR) was downloaded and
sent to the NTSB laboratories in Washington. The affected
windshield, which remained in one piece, and the heating
unit were removed from the aircraft and will undergo a
detailed analysis.
While the cause of this particular incident is unknown and
remains under investigation, the NTSB is aware of five
events between 2004 and 2006 in which smoke, and in some
cases fire, were reported to have originated from window
heating systems in B-757 aircraft.
Based on these incidents, in September 2007 the NTSB issued
two Safety Recommendations to the Federal Aviation
Administration (FAA) asking the agency to require the
installation of redesigned window heating systems in all
Boeing 747, 757, 767, and 777 series aircraft. These Safety
Recommendations have yet to be implemented by the FAA.
The Safety Recommendations are available at
http://www.ntsb.gov/Recs/letters/2007/A07_49_50.pdf
View of cracked windshield from inside flight deck
http://www.ntsb.gov/Pressrel/2008/im...57-cockpit.jpg
Heating unit on affected windshield
http://www.ntsb.gov/Pressrel/2008/im...ater_block.jpg
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Based on these incidents, in September 2007 the NTSB issued two Safety Recommendations to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) asking the agency to require the installation of redesigned window heating systems in all Boeing 747, 757, 767, and 777 series aircraft. These Safety Recommendations have yet to be implemented by the FAA.
Is this usual?
No thanks for that photo of the unit.... I do so hate electrical fires of any kind.
The FAA will simply attempt to get pilots to shoulder the burden of yet another problem they'll simply recommend----
" that pilots are to assure all electric fixtures and wiring appliances are safe and correctly installed---this should include a check beyond looking for popped CBs"
---therefore if your not an electrical engineer you'll no longer be eligible for an ATP certificate!
" that pilots are to assure all electric fixtures and wiring appliances are safe and correctly installed---this should include a check beyond looking for popped CBs"
---therefore if your not an electrical engineer you'll no longer be eligible for an ATP certificate!
