Phuket Air Safety Issues
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These ones now completely out of sorts.
Was said that the CP came into RUH, gate with no marshaler, wrong taxi line and a tow in only gate.
Less than a meter between wingtips of Saudia 777 parked beside them.
Putting on the blinders with this group will eventually get expensive, line needs to be drawn soon.
Was said that the CP came into RUH, gate with no marshaler, wrong taxi line and a tow in only gate.
Less than a meter between wingtips of Saudia 777 parked beside them.
Putting on the blinders with this group will eventually get expensive, line needs to be drawn soon.
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HS-VAO had an Emergency landing into Cairo this evening due to loss of Hydraulic's... Not sure what system or if it was all systems, but aircraft was towed off the runway.
BTW, have they fixed the CADC in HS-VAN ?? Or is this aircraft still flying around with only set of cockpit instruments?
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BTW, have they fixed the CADC in HS-VAN ?? Or is this aircraft still flying around with only set of cockpit instruments?
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Phuket Air
You people have to understand that any Thailand airline has **** maintenance. Even if they get good crew in, they will be sacked simply because they will not comply with breaking the rules. Chief Pilots are always replaced simply because they will not conform to the rules from above. I would never fly on a Phuket airliner or an Orient Thai aircraft simply because the guys working there cannot get a job anywhere else.
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You people have to understand that any Thailand airline has **** maintenance.
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The issue is more finely balanced that many credit. All it takes is one hull loss or worse a fatality for the situation to get to a head. Maybe not as far as the revoking of category I status, but there would be consequences.
Many in Saudia city are probably holding their breath hoping the new fleet arrive (and the fly-by-nights asked to leave) before any catastrophe happens.
Retiring the A300s before their replacement was sought was a big mistake. However, the situation at the second hand market is becoming more favourable for SV. If they act, they can pick up some quick interim lift. How about China Southern's 772s?
Many in Saudia city are probably holding their breath hoping the new fleet arrive (and the fly-by-nights asked to leave) before any catastrophe happens.
Retiring the A300s before their replacement was sought was a big mistake. However, the situation at the second hand market is becoming more favourable for SV. If they act, they can pick up some quick interim lift. How about China Southern's 772s?
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Same old Same old thing there.
Aircraft VAC just returned to jiddah, problems again.
Aircraft VAO down for the count, more issues with duct problems.
How long will the Saudi's allow this operation to continue ?
Going to be some heavy explaining to do when they bang one in and all the letters written to the FAA, DCA and others about the unsafe aircraft and crew violations.
The press will have a field day with this one asking why nothing was done!
Added: for those who may be disbelievers watch the ground engineers when the aircraft blocks in.
First engineering item, pour bottled water over the hot brakes to cool them down.
This is just what you can see, imagine what you cannot see!!!!
Aircraft VAC just returned to jiddah, problems again.
Aircraft VAO down for the count, more issues with duct problems.
How long will the Saudi's allow this operation to continue ?
Going to be some heavy explaining to do when they bang one in and all the letters written to the FAA, DCA and others about the unsafe aircraft and crew violations.
The press will have a field day with this one asking why nothing was done!
Added: for those who may be disbelievers watch the ground engineers when the aircraft blocks in.
First engineering item, pour bottled water over the hot brakes to cool them down.
This is just what you can see, imagine what you cannot see!!!!
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Bent feathers??
PacPlyer, your quote
<<<<Changing a whole country's ICAO status based on the practices of a single colluding out of state carrier is, in the real world, not likely to happen imho.>>
Not just Phuket Air but 1-2 Go /Thai Orient.
Look at Phuket Air crash thread ( Sept 16 , 2007 ) and then have a gander at InvestigateUdom.com
Thai DCA is a pit of malfeasance
Besides just one incident that is ignored by DCA is reason enough to downgrade rating .
Not bent feathers, LOST LIVES , and lots of 'em
<<<<Changing a whole country's ICAO status based on the practices of a single colluding out of state carrier is, in the real world, not likely to happen imho.>>
Not just Phuket Air but 1-2 Go /Thai Orient.
Look at Phuket Air crash thread ( Sept 16 , 2007 ) and then have a gander at InvestigateUdom.com
Thai DCA is a pit of malfeasance
Besides just one incident that is ignored by DCA is reason enough to downgrade rating .
Not bent feathers, LOST LIVES , and lots of 'em
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Phuket Airlines
They are a bunch of crooks. The DFO is a very arogant man who thinks he knows it all. I worked for these people. I hope the day comes when these companies find it difficult to find crews. Another company to give a very wide berth.
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What's the consensus on Bangkok Air? Any info, same league as 1-2 Go /Phuket Air or can I expect to live ?
Need to fly to Utapao (pattaya) and it seems to be the only choice.
Need to fly to Utapao (pattaya) and it seems to be the only choice.
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Bangkok Airways is world class. An excellent airline.
Great pax service..Very well maintained fleet..Honest safety culture..But expensive.
No I don't work for them but have been involved in their crew training.
Great pax service..Very well maintained fleet..Honest safety culture..But expensive.
No I don't work for them but have been involved in their crew training.
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KaptKatoy
Thailand aviation has it's problems .... yes.
DCAT has it's problems as a regulator .... yes.
But your posts are not accurate and are exagerated.
Just by the way, are you katoy ?
From your posts it seems that way.
So now for sure some are wondering what the Thai word katoy means?
DCAT has it's problems as a regulator .... yes.
But your posts are not accurate and are exagerated.
Just by the way, are you katoy ?
From your posts it seems that way.
So now for sure some are wondering what the Thai word katoy means?
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PG for Christy
I used to think Ozthai's assessment of PG was correct, but since the EU blacklisted SiemReap, I have to wonder. Same company, same airplanes, same maintenance, same crew as PG.
Yes, EASA did dump on Cambodian DCA, but they specifically called out Siem Reap for unspecified "practices."
Yes, EASA did dump on Cambodian DCA, but they specifically called out Siem Reap for unspecified "practices."
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See the second part of my comment. In addition to the Cambodian DCA, EASA did single out Siem Reap, but did not provide any details for their action. This is not the same as the blanket ban for carriers from the African countries and Indonesia (see the same link), which would be the case if the ban was completely based on DCA shortcomings.
Given their close association with PG, I admit I was surprised by the ban. I cannot explain the decision, but it leaves some unanswered questions on the table.
Given their close association with PG, I admit I was surprised by the ban. I cannot explain the decision, but it leaves some unanswered questions on the table.
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Bangkok Air Passengers Smoking Next to Plane, Lax Security Screening
Just a bit on the climate of safety in Thailand.
On tues Dec 23 at 14;10 Pm Bangkok Air flight Pattaya, U-Tapao to Phuket.
3 male western passengers lit up cigarettes on the tram on the way out to the plane. The fuel truck was present and still had the static line attached as we approached. These passengers were in the row immediately behind the driver of the tram and the female Bangkok Air staff member who did nothing to stop them.
The passengers then stamped out cigarettes while in line to board and the debris was left on the ground.
About this time I realized I'd been allowed to pas through x ray with a full litre of liquid. I confronted the staff on this fact and the smoking and her response was how did she know I'd brought the liquid from outside the airport?
Because I'm telling you
" Well, you may take it on board, anyway. "she smiled .
U -Tapao, in addition to being Bangkok Air's private international hub, is a military installation with US jets stationed there.
I tried to call the aiport to report these gross safety violations.
The airport operator does not speak English ( International airport) but he gave me another number to call where I was the hung up on twice and passed around 4 times. Not one person in the " Security" department spoke English, or at least pretended not to.
I called Bangkok Air and did speak to a women who's response was,
" Uh Uhhh, Huhhh." Literally.
I did get her name but I seriously doubt this will get passed onto upper management. Even if so ....
"My Pen Rai...." (Don't Worry, Be Happy )
ALL Thai Airlines-Caveat Emptor !
On tues Dec 23 at 14;10 Pm Bangkok Air flight Pattaya, U-Tapao to Phuket.
3 male western passengers lit up cigarettes on the tram on the way out to the plane. The fuel truck was present and still had the static line attached as we approached. These passengers were in the row immediately behind the driver of the tram and the female Bangkok Air staff member who did nothing to stop them.
The passengers then stamped out cigarettes while in line to board and the debris was left on the ground.
About this time I realized I'd been allowed to pas through x ray with a full litre of liquid. I confronted the staff on this fact and the smoking and her response was how did she know I'd brought the liquid from outside the airport?
Because I'm telling you
" Well, you may take it on board, anyway. "she smiled .
U -Tapao, in addition to being Bangkok Air's private international hub, is a military installation with US jets stationed there.
I tried to call the aiport to report these gross safety violations.
The airport operator does not speak English ( International airport) but he gave me another number to call where I was the hung up on twice and passed around 4 times. Not one person in the " Security" department spoke English, or at least pretended not to.
I called Bangkok Air and did speak to a women who's response was,
" Uh Uhhh, Huhhh." Literally.
I did get her name but I seriously doubt this will get passed onto upper management. Even if so ....
"My Pen Rai...." (Don't Worry, Be Happy )
ALL Thai Airlines-Caveat Emptor !
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CS,
As a regular pax in Thailand, it's always difficult to gauge the safety standards. Well spotted in U-Taphao!!
Normally, I travel Bangkok Airways and Thai. Occasionally Nok, and, if I can accept the delays, Air Asia. Never travel 12go/Orient Thai as life's too short. Prefer a cold beer and arrive alive tomorrow.
As a regular pax in Thailand, it's always difficult to gauge the safety standards. Well spotted in U-Taphao!!
Normally, I travel Bangkok Airways and Thai. Occasionally Nok, and, if I can accept the delays, Air Asia. Never travel 12go/Orient Thai as life's too short. Prefer a cold beer and arrive alive tomorrow.
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We all know- but tourists don't
Yes we all know about Phuket Air, Udom's OT and 1-2 Die, it's the other Thai airlines that seem to enjoy a false screen of respectability.
I say maybe they're safe- maybe not -but if they are, it's purely voluntary' cause Thailand DCA ain't gonna do it and the US FAA ain't gonna accurately access safety standards..
Can we trust the EU to do it?
And what about the bozos on the ground, in the airports , maintenance crews ? What a nightmare!!
Flashback ; January 31, 2000
Air Alaska #261 MD 83 crash where the tail elevator screw stripped as it wasn't being greased properly- cost too much .
Well, guess what folks - seems the same person in charge of maintenance then at Alaskan Air is now on the FAA board that accesses foreign safety standard adherance... Hold on I'll post her name in a minute .. Investigate Udom has ALL the inside info on this..
88 people died .
I say maybe they're safe- maybe not -but if they are, it's purely voluntary' cause Thailand DCA ain't gonna do it and the US FAA ain't gonna accurately access safety standards..
Can we trust the EU to do it?
And what about the bozos on the ground, in the airports , maintenance crews ? What a nightmare!!
Flashback ; January 31, 2000
Air Alaska #261 MD 83 crash where the tail elevator screw stripped as it wasn't being greased properly- cost too much .
Well, guess what folks - seems the same person in charge of maintenance then at Alaskan Air is now on the FAA board that accesses foreign safety standard adherance... Hold on I'll post her name in a minute .. Investigate Udom has ALL the inside info on this..
88 people died .
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CS,
I have flown numerous times from UTP with Bangkok Airways and have always found them to be very professional. Please explain why you believe this is a 'private international hub' for the airline. As far as I know it only flies internally to Samui and Phuket from here.
Oh, by the way, I had a similar experience in Venice this year, I had forgotten that I'd put a bottle of water in both my and my wife's hand luggage. Hers was discovered by security, mine wasn't. They looked slightly embarassed when I handed my bottle in !!
It happens everywhere....
I have flown numerous times from UTP with Bangkok Airways and have always found them to be very professional. Please explain why you believe this is a 'private international hub' for the airline. As far as I know it only flies internally to Samui and Phuket from here.
Oh, by the way, I had a similar experience in Venice this year, I had forgotten that I'd put a bottle of water in both my and my wife's hand luggage. Hers was discovered by security, mine wasn't. They looked slightly embarassed when I handed my bottle in !!
It happens everywhere....