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Virgin CC to ballot for industrial action

Old 3rd Nov 2007, 19:08
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Then you know that in the real world, the majority of union members will not support a strike they don't want and will either leave the union or break the picket.

The 28% of cabin crew angling for a strike don't have the clout to win this one.
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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 19:19
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About 80 % of members did strike so i dont really know what your going on about.
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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 19:22
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We are talking about this potential strike, not what happened at manchester.
Still, even then 20% did not strike, also how many were not in the union?
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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 19:30
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As far as i am aware everyone in the Union did strike. You see thats the point of bieng in a union you all stick together. Whats the point of being in a union if your not willing to fight for what you want.
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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 19:33
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As far as i am aware everyone in the Union did strike. You see thats the point of bieng in a union you all stick together. Whats the point of being in a union if your not willing to fight for what you want.
Ask the 59% who either voted for the deal or did not send ballot papers back that question, as that is the shifting sand which this strike is anchored on.

The days of Bully boy union tactics to make everyone strike have gone.
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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 19:37
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Tin Tin

I was under the impression that if the majority voted to strike all would have to strike, union meaning as one as such.
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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 21:11
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I'll bet the bulk of the no-voters are early-mid 20s, only planning on sticking aroun

I'm really concerned about your (Carpes) narrow mindedness and am grateful that not all flight crew think like this.

I realise that you have had years of training to get into your position but that doesn't mean that as cabin crew we don't take our roles seriously. I am in my mid twenties have worked as cabin crew for 5 years and plan to stick around for a good few years to come! I find your comments patronising and hope you will be eating your words when you see me standing on the picket line protesting for something i truly believe in. Shopping will be the last thing on my mind; your comments only make me and my colleagues even more determined to get what we deserve!
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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 21:12
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Reps? You're 'avin a larf!
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Hi Smellthecoffee,

It's not my intention to be patronising, especially to someone who has an interest in staying in the Company. But I stick by what I've said - yours and my continued employment is potentially in the hands of a set of people who have NO vested interest in the future of the Company. I've spoken to lots of them, lots who DIDN'T EVEN VOTE! They think this is some sort of lark and they are not for a moment considering the consequences. But make no mistake mate, whilst you are stood there with your placard, the same 'can't be arsed to vote' brigade will not be shoulder to shoulder with you, they'll be busy on-board (with a nice little bung for their betrayal) undermining your determination to sort out your terms and conditions once and for all.

Don't forget, it took Virgin Pilots five years and two tough pay deals to get to the position they are now in, the Cabin Crew need to take the same view. Now there is sufficient Union membership to make the Company sit up and take notice of the CC union, you should be planning a long slow campaign to drive standards up. Your Union Reps are doing their best but they have lost control of their membership who think they can just keep saying no (or not bothering to vote so that it's not their fault!) and the Company will offer them more money - we are all heading for a train smash as a result.

As I understand it, your pay deal is structured to reward better those, like you, who wish to remain in the Company and rise through the ranks - and rightly so - about time too. But you have NO chance of getting that recognition unless you get a grip of the large number of junior staff who have NO interest in how much a CSS gets as they have no intention in sticking around that long. Your Reps need to start showing strong leadership, something they have not done so far at all.
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Virgin C/CStrike action

You know what im really fed up to the back teeth of all this strike action rubbish and ill tell you why.
Today I over heard conversations from your new crew who themselves have only been with the company a few weeks discussing the poss strike action and how they feel they should be given a higher salary.
You can imagine how sadend I was to hear this from new people within our company jumping on the band wagon of a very silly campaign run by some what mis guided people.
I dont mean to sound harsh but come on ladies and gents you knew the salary at the start , you knew the perks and you had the choice of whom to go work for your the role models for the new guys and look what you have turned them into!!
Take the resposibility for your actions and do not make our airline into a BA mark 2 (where staff run the airline by millitant action).
Your risking so much as you know the airline will not survive 7 days of strike action, and your actions will have a direct result on both staff in the air and on the ground by creating possible job cuts.
So while your sipping on your G and T's down route think of the other poor Ba**ards who work within this airline , who are panicing because we do not know if we will have a job in the run up to xmas.
Lets face it if you dont like the job or the comapany or the money isnt enough then GO SOME WHERE ELSE!!!
Our business isnt the best paid but hey we all knew that and I make my money up by using the benefits etc.
Virgin doesnt need silly people just fighting on for fighting's sake listern to your union reps etc belive me they know best.
Leave the negotiating to them and stick to your chicken or beef and let the rest of us sleep well in knowing our jobs will be there in the morning.

A VERY PROUD VAA EMPLOYEE
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