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Hard Landing In SFB

Old 3rd Jul 2007, 16:44
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On the subject of certain aircraft being 'prone' to hard touch-downs (I personally find I have occasional days where I am prone to hard landings and the more I try to soften the landings, the worse they get) ...Is the B737-800 one of them? I have flown several times recently as a pax in 738's and most of the touch downs could best be described as 'positive.' Other people have commented the same, although usually mentioning the carrier rather than the aircraft type...I won't mention the airline as I don't think it is relevent, suffice to say they get a lot of coverage on this website!

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Old 3rd Jul 2007, 19:26
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Thumbs up support the crews

dont look for crew faults folks, support the crews (pilots do, we know who we are)


M is a good operator with top crews
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Old 3rd Jul 2007, 19:42
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I agree with you and with fantom...the 330 lands as smoothly as any large transport and is truly a joy to fly. It was the "bogie-unlock" phenomena giving the "second-landing" that I was wondering about. It doesn't happen all the time. And if you're not experiencing it either on the 330 or the 340, then I'd love to know how you're handling it and what's being done to avoid getting that bit of a thump when touching down because I haven't talked to anyone who's avoided it all the time.
Flew the 340 a decade or so ago... The only way I could "avoid" it, and it goes against all "correct techniques", was a second flare ~2s after touchdown. This is when the spoilers deploy killing the lift and causing the "drop" if the 1st touchdown was "smooth".
The "correct technique" of course is to avoid the ultra smooth touchdown, and then the fronts are down before the spoilers. The technique I mention above is:
  • Technically incorrect
  • You'd better be aware of the tailscrape implications
  • Can work though...
Now not flying the aircraft, watch all 330/340 landings with interest... and see/remember that "thump" just after the spoilers deploy and it "drops"
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Old 3rd Jul 2007, 19:48
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My 8 million was $(us).

2.7 g is still heavy.

Pity it wasn't 2 captains. Political angle here. It often goes wrong in inverse proportion to the ranks on the flight deck.

And I am not unsupportive of the flight deck. There but for the grace of God.
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Old 3rd Jul 2007, 20:23
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+1.6g

Is it after 1.6 g a inspection is required ?

After how many g's do you need to fix stuff on an ac ?

Of course there are other factors. Nosewheel.


Dont know about 330 but

had to move the thrust levers out of the climb detent to MCT as the autothrust wasn't spooling up on the 320 the other day. it would've been very hard. calm day too landing flaps 3
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