SpiceJet 737NG loss of displays
The Cooler King
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: In the Desert
Posts: 1,703
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
SpiceJet 737NG loss of displays
The local rag is covering this story at the moment. Says that a SpiceJet 737NG lost all visual displays up front due to "full software failure".
Knowing this area for sensationalism ("Pilot had no idea which direction he was facing!"
) ......does anyone have the facts?
Knowing this area for sensationalism ("Pilot had no idea which direction he was facing!"
) ......does anyone have the facts?
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: downtown dustbowl
Age: 47
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just a lot of disagrees. IA, Altitude and clacker on the P1 side. Happened right after t/o. The only major concern was them flying below MSA which was promptly rectified. Standby instruments were fine and they were vectored back to land albeit with the loud annoying clacker going off.
SG going through a rough patch lately.... wrong runway ldg, blown engine, damaged wingtip and this amongst others. All in a days work.
SG going through a rough patch lately.... wrong runway ldg, blown engine, damaged wingtip and this amongst others. All in a days work.
Join Date: Dec 1998
Location: England
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Why the Stall Management Yaw Damper Computer?
EssexBoy said
and described here..... but it's supposedly not an airborne anomaly - and shouldn't knock out the PFD.
.
So don't really see how that relates to this description:
.
Relevance to the Douala Accident?
In mid-air, plane’s key panel goes blank
SANJAY MANDAL
.
"This is an emergency. I am not getting the proper data. None of the navigational panels are working properly..."
The Mayday call to the Calcutta air traffic control (ATC) was from the Hyderabad-bound SpiceJet flight SG 527 minutes after take-off on June 6. There were 132 passengers on board.
In what was termed by airport officials and pilots as an “extremely rare and dangerous situation”, the aircraft’s essential gadgets measuring height and speed and fixing direction were malfunctioning. A disaster was averted by the pilot’s SOS to the airport and then the surveillance radar that navigated the craft back to safety.
.
The Boeing 737-800 series left Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose International Airport at 2.47pm. Once airborne, the control of an aircraft is handed over to the surveillance radar from the ATC tower but the officer in the control tower keeps in touch with the pilot.
.
“The pilot was not responding to our calls. We were very worried,” recounted an official of the directorate-general of civil aviation (DGCA)’s air safety wing.
Then, the pilot’s voice reached ATC officers. “He sounded really nervous,” the official added.
And with good reason. The pilot told the control tower that the altimeter (measuring the height at which the craft is flying), the heading (compass on the panel showing the direction in which the craft is flying) and the speed control system were not displaying the vital information.
“The craft was then flying at an approximate height of 3,000 feet above ground level and steadily gaining height. But the pilot had no clue which way he was heading, the height at which he was flying and its speed,” an official explained.
.
The pilot told the control tower that he needed to return to Calcutta airport at once. “A full emergency was declared at the airport; we had never faced such a situation,” an ATC official admitted.
SG 527 was then completely guided back to the runway by the surveillance radar. The pilot was first told to turn in a particular direction, then asked to lower height and decrease speed as directed by the radar. The aircraft landed just after 3pm, amidst all emergency arrangements.
“It was an operational issue which was resolved. The flight landed safely and nothing major happened,” said a SpiceJet official.
But veteran pilots shuddered at the thought of what might have been. “It is a very rare situation and can be really dangerous,” said one. “After take-off, if the speed limit is crossed, the aircraft’s whole structure can be damaged. And the wrong reading of heights can increase the possibility of mid-air collision,” he pointed out.
.
from this link
.
Any prior recorded instances of this on 737NG?
Any AD's or Service Bulletins, SIL's issued?
Sounds like the SMYD computer to me. This problem is known by Boeing.
.
So don't really see how that relates to this description:
.
Relevance to the Douala Accident?
In mid-air, plane’s key panel goes blank
SANJAY MANDAL
.
"This is an emergency. I am not getting the proper data. None of the navigational panels are working properly..."
The Mayday call to the Calcutta air traffic control (ATC) was from the Hyderabad-bound SpiceJet flight SG 527 minutes after take-off on June 6. There were 132 passengers on board.
In what was termed by airport officials and pilots as an “extremely rare and dangerous situation”, the aircraft’s essential gadgets measuring height and speed and fixing direction were malfunctioning. A disaster was averted by the pilot’s SOS to the airport and then the surveillance radar that navigated the craft back to safety.
.
The Boeing 737-800 series left Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose International Airport at 2.47pm. Once airborne, the control of an aircraft is handed over to the surveillance radar from the ATC tower but the officer in the control tower keeps in touch with the pilot.
.
“The pilot was not responding to our calls. We were very worried,” recounted an official of the directorate-general of civil aviation (DGCA)’s air safety wing.
Then, the pilot’s voice reached ATC officers. “He sounded really nervous,” the official added.
And with good reason. The pilot told the control tower that the altimeter (measuring the height at which the craft is flying), the heading (compass on the panel showing the direction in which the craft is flying) and the speed control system were not displaying the vital information.
“The craft was then flying at an approximate height of 3,000 feet above ground level and steadily gaining height. But the pilot had no clue which way he was heading, the height at which he was flying and its speed,” an official explained.
.
The pilot told the control tower that he needed to return to Calcutta airport at once. “A full emergency was declared at the airport; we had never faced such a situation,” an ATC official admitted.
SG 527 was then completely guided back to the runway by the surveillance radar. The pilot was first told to turn in a particular direction, then asked to lower height and decrease speed as directed by the radar. The aircraft landed just after 3pm, amidst all emergency arrangements.
“It was an operational issue which was resolved. The flight landed safely and nothing major happened,” said a SpiceJet official.
But veteran pilots shuddered at the thought of what might have been. “It is a very rare situation and can be really dangerous,” said one. “After take-off, if the speed limit is crossed, the aircraft’s whole structure can be damaged. And the wrong reading of heights can increase the possibility of mid-air collision,” he pointed out.
.
from this link
.
Any prior recorded instances of this on 737NG?
Any AD's or Service Bulletins, SIL's issued?
Last edited by OVERTALK; 17th Jun 2007 at 14:35. Reason: grammar
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I don't think that the ground test was the anomaly that essexboy was talking about. I have had this problem. Just after takeoff ,lost capt flight director, speed tape varying from stick shaker to clacker. Standbys and FO instruments OK. After landing engineers with fax from boeing describing the fault swapped the SMYDs.
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: By the A&P
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
essential gadgets
Good job to the crew and ATC (well, other than somebody's rather unprofessional comment about having not dealt with an emergency before).
