Liverpool runway incursion?
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I would never want to judge another Captain's decision in an open forum and as the real facts don't seem to be clear, so I am not judging this decision, I feel comfortable saying the following:
If the reason for the GA was that the runway was not clear, I think that a GA that involves a touchdown is probably leaving it a bit too late.
If the reason for the GA was that the runway was not clear, I think that a GA that involves a touchdown is probably leaving it a bit too late.
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Well sure, we are speculating of course.
Putting myself in the position of a commander who has ahead an aircraft slow to vacate (and I have been in that position a few times) I might estimate that the guy will be clear in time for me to get in. In this case the other ship is way down the runway, so a contact during GA is not on the cards.
If you are stabilised, have the scene in sight and can GA at the drop of a hat, why not continue to abort height?
Any other scenario, such as an incursion or other obstacle anywhere on the RW including an unexpected aircraft in TO position as described above, would of course be grounds for a GA straight away.
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Putting myself in the position of a commander who has ahead an aircraft slow to vacate (and I have been in that position a few times) I might estimate that the guy will be clear in time for me to get in. In this case the other ship is way down the runway, so a contact during GA is not on the cards.
If you are stabilised, have the scene in sight and can GA at the drop of a hat, why not continue to abort height?
Any other scenario, such as an incursion or other obstacle anywhere on the RW including an unexpected aircraft in TO position as described above, would of course be grounds for a GA straight away.
FC.
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Thanks for that Itdraz
Single RW ops is quite a hard job for the ATC boys and girls - especially with increasing and mixed traffic, as Itdraz illustrates above. The Lassie salaries are well earned.
Things are cut increasingly fine - which doesn't mean dangerous - just means a GA is on the cards if a hiccough occurs.
The days of Liverpool flying club, the odd Manx Air twin and not much else are long over!
FC.
Things are cut increasingly fine - which doesn't mean dangerous - just means a GA is on the cards if a hiccough occurs.
The days of Liverpool flying club, the odd Manx Air twin and not much else are long over!
FC.