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A380 evacuation trial seen for the first time (video clip)

Old 2nd May 2007, 19:32
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I *should have* taken part in a Braniff Concorde evacuation test in the late 70s (*should have* because they switched the date and I couldn't make it ). We were specifically asked to bring kids clutching big teddies, etc. A mix of ages was required.

Quite a few of my colleagues did it, there were qute a fewseveral stories of broken bones and bad bruising.
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Old 2nd May 2007, 22:50
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Many years ago my wife and I knew a man who worked on Eurostar and his wife. We were invited to a test run of the train months before it took paying SLF.

We arrived at Waterloo and they sprung a full blown security alert on us. Bag and body scans the works. After that we all relaxed because the word was they would not spring any more surprises. When we got under way we were told that the catering staff had never served anything to anyone before and we were to be their victims. God were they useless !!! Pathetic in fact but the people with clip boards were happy. After this we really were relaxed. They would not try a third trick on us . Right? Wrong.

In the middle of the tunnel the train stopped and we all had to pretend one end of the train was on fire and everyone had to cram into the "safe" end ready for the train to split as arranged. The people with clip boards were very happy.. Everyone else was knackered physically and certainly mentally. But by god it was realistic with knobs on. Mainly because of the craftiness of having us believe we could relax when we couldn't

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Old 3rd May 2007, 04:58
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Why are these tests always filmed in black & white? It's not as if colour is expensive.

I thought it was something to do with filming in darkness but there seems to be plenty of light around in this test - particularly outside the cabin.
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Old 3rd May 2007, 06:55
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I bet they wouldn't've got off so fast if they weren't being shouted at in German. It was all I could do to stay in my seat in front of the pc.
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Old 3rd May 2007, 07:22
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At one point people are seen running down a near "empty" gangway. Wonder how that happened. Did some people wait in their seats for a bit.
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Old 3rd May 2007, 08:44
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Looks like boarding a Ryanair flight, in reverse
Couldn't help it...
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Old 3rd May 2007, 10:06
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right towards the end on one of the middle slides it looked like one of the cabin crew who were last off was turned sideways halfway down the slide and came off the bottom at a fairly high rate of knots. made me laugh at first but hope he wasnt hurt
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Old 3rd May 2007, 13:36
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They managed to get 783 people off in 77 seconds
Dislexia found for cure!!!
Two days later EASA confirmed that the 853 passengers, 18 cabin crew, and two pilots had indeed evacuated in 78s.
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Old 3rd May 2007, 15:56
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right towards the end on one of the middle slides it looked like one of the cabin crew who were last off was turned sideways halfway down the slide and came off the bottom at a fairly high rate of knots. made me laugh at first but hope he wasnt hurt
Saw the same thing. Imagine doing THAT in the dark!

Why are these tests always filmed in black & white? It's not as if colour is expensive.

I thought it was something to do with filming in darkness but there seems to be plenty of light around in this test - particularly outside the cabin.
The article says it was dark, save the lights on the slides. Therefore, I think you're looking at IR that just happens to be of such high quality that you believe you're looking at a daylight-lit scene.

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Old 3rd May 2007, 20:44
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I understand Julian's concerns, whilst at the same time appreciating the test is set against baseline criteria of 90 seconds.

However, I think the important point is the 'scale effect' of a large aircraft.

Evacuating a B737 with one exit inoperable is relatively easy, for example.

Maybe what Julian is getting at is, if things went wrong and got 'messed up' would it still be possible? You can argue all day about granny in the wheelchair or an aisle blocked.

It's a bit like a tech log with multiple entries, non of which in themsleves is a 'no-go' item. But what about the effect of each item on each other? That's never tested and has always been a concern with Captains having to carry multiple defects. It's alright in theory and perfectly legal. But what about the practice?

Same goes for these tests - alright in theory, but what about in reality? Slides seem to be coming from all directions?! Some of those slides are high! I remember when I first saw the B747 cabin simulator at Cranebank - it's big and scary for your average pilot let alone punter jumping off it!

The scale effect being if things do go wrong they're going to on a big scale!

Just a thought.

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Old 4th May 2007, 13:58
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Muzik

Did everyone like the background music. I feel like using the Command evac just to see if its fitted on our busses. Only joking you know ........
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The risk of injury, even sliding down a normal-length slide, is sufficient that the airline for which I work no longer permits crew to slide out of the cockpit-trainer. This decision followed a number of costly injuries in a controlled environment. The decision to evacuate an aircraft should not be taken lightly.
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Old 7th May 2007, 13:12
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Right you are, Meadowbank. Looking at the height of the slides, and the numbers of bodies descending in the video, one thinks perhaps more thought should be given in training as to when and when not to evacuate an aeroplane of this size.
On the other hand,I can't imagine crash/fire/rescue equipment at most airports being adequate to immediately contain serious problems in such a leviathan. Hard to envision "crowd control" successes in shepherding such a huge group of frightened, perhaps injured people away from a wreck, even if the event were just a "simple" evacuation with no fire.

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Old 7th May 2007, 21:25
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Thier is a dreadfull loophole in the certification.
The width of aisle at the galley and toilets has an impact on fast egress.
There is an excellent series of videos demonstrating this very point.

Best mimumum size enables two average sized people, not become stuck if they try to fit through the gap at the same time.

Since the way to some of the emegency doors is usually past a toilet or galley all the best planning and testing in the world at time of certification can be compromised by subesquent changes to interior layout of wider/more seats or different galley and toilet configurations.


Next time you fly take a look at the width of the aisle by the toilet and galley, you'll be surprised how narrow it sometimes is....


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