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Old 11th Apr 2007, 20:25
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Your landing times are.....

Take a look at this video....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhUO4pdGCf8

Who speaks Russian and can translate what is being said? To me it looks like the elevator was stuck, and this was the best they could do.
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Old 11th Apr 2007, 20:44
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Just one of my regular landings. You should see me on a bad day!
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"To me it looks like the elevator was stuck, and this was the best they could do."

To me it looks like he approached too fast, flared too late and rather than go around and try again decided to try and test the strength of the nosewheel!

Bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy

Strong undercarriage or what?!


PS: But then what would I know. I'm just a newbie PPL
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Old 11th Apr 2007, 21:37
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That's some flare for a stuck elevator - look closely towards the end (the last two bounces) - the elevators aren't stuck.

Classic porpoising! I have to admit to being in stiches of laughter when I played it at first - sorry everyone

the 'shadow' gives a general explanation, for anyone who might want it, at http://www.pprune.org/forums/showpos...&postcount=124
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Old 11th Apr 2007, 22:20
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Translation courtesy Mrs WHBM (who doesn't really know aviation terms)

On approach: "65 [presumably the callsign of the aircraft], watch speed, watch rate of descent, align [to the runway ?], align more"

When the porpoising starts: "Hold it level.....hold it level.....HOLD IT LEVEL..."

When stopped: "OK, taxi back ......... no, shut it down".

Presumably the voice is from the ground, not an instructor on the aircraft.
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Didn't appear to be a power reduction either.
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Old 12th Apr 2007, 06:36
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From somewhere in the humour thread over in ATC-land there's a good response appropriate for this occasion: "I suppose you'll want that charged as one landing".
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If you want to know how strong the front Gear of Russian a/c are look here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cclH8ZSDVOM&NR=1
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Reminds me of the Cabin Crew announcement:

"Please remain seated until Captain Cangaroo has hopped us to the terminal..."

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Old 12th Apr 2007, 07:33
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Looks to me like the gear finally gave up (on the first video clip) judging by the amount of "dust" coming from the front.........

Funny how you can find yourself shouting GO AROUND at a computer screen!

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Old 12th Apr 2007, 08:19
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from the comments on avsim.ru where the video was originally posted:
military flight school, 2 students on their 2nd solo
No injures but A/C written off (nosegear went through the floor, other damage)
left-seat student expelled, the other is to repeat a term
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Old 12th Apr 2007, 10:21
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Watching some of the landings into BHD from IOM, you may be fooled into thinking that was SOP for the 410.



Jus messin' wid ya boys!
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Old 12th Apr 2007, 10:36
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Originally Posted by dimitrik
from the comments on avsim.ru where the video was originally posted:
military flight school, 2 students on their 2nd solo
No injures but A/C written off (nosegear went through the floor, other damage)
left-seat student expelled, the other is to repeat a term
Oh come on! Please tell me the Russians aren't that stupid. Who on earth puts two student/trainee pilots in BOTH seats on a multi crew transport aircraft and then sends them solo?

More likely the Russian website suffers from the same problem as Pprune with amateurs speculating about tings they know nothing about! Tell me it isn't true.
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Old 12th Apr 2007, 11:19
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Two students together on that plane? Hard to believe.
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Old 12th Apr 2007, 12:35
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Try the RAF.
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Funny how you can find yourself shouting GO AROUND at a computer screen!
Good old Pavlov strikes again

Anyway, they seemed to have it almost under control at their third "landing" but they kept the power up?!

Keeping on the landings thread... how about this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBh9THu2rAs&NR=1
Brings back memories of a certain asian airport, 'innit'.

GD&L

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Old 13th Apr 2007, 12:10
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Love it! RDL, I'd guess that he deliberately went thru the CL just to create that little extra spacing to avoid a GA because of the deprature in front (which you get a glimpse of). Great bit of real flying.
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Old 13th Apr 2007, 15:54
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Great bit of real flying.
If that was real flying then I am glad 'real' flying is discouraged by my company and that I do not indulge in 'real' flying.
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Old 13th Apr 2007, 16:16
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All horrendous examples of airmanship

I've flown the let410..and its a SIMPLE and forgiving aircraft.....I dunno about the IL76, but the guys in the Delta 737 outta be ashamed of themselves for that effort....its not hard to look out the window, and match it with the noodle (trend vector)....even allowing for a bit of mapshift..
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Old 13th Apr 2007, 16:21
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Oh come on! Please tell me the Russians aren't that stupid. Who on earth puts two student/trainee pilots in BOTH seats on a multi crew transport aircraft and then sends them solo?
I was of course referring to the L-401 video (first in this thread), not IL76
More photo/video from the same school (no crashes this time):
http://foto.mail.ru/list/sokol422/8/
http://video.mail.ru/list/sokol422/1/
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