Hairy cross-wind landing...
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Hairy cross-wind landing...
Go to http://www.komotv.com/ then click on "High winds make for a scary landing at Sea-Tac"
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Here's another, as the United captain said years ago at DEN after a crash, "don't worry folks, it's just a freighter" 
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http://www.cnn.com/WEATHER/9611/28/n...plane.23.2.mov
:http://www.cnn.com/WEATHER/9611/28/n...plane.23.2.mov
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metar ksea
KSEA 150853Z 23040G60KT 5SM -RA BKN025 BKN035 OVC080 06/05 A2922=
KSEA 150853Z 23040G60KT 5SM -RA BKN025 BKN035 OVC080 06/05 A2922 RMK AO2 PK WND 22060/0844 RAE02B44 PRESRR SLP903 OCNL LTG DSNT S P0000 60000 T00610050 53026 $=
KSEA 150828Z 20032G47KT 10SM BKN025 BKN035 OVC080 08/04 A2916
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Bet needed to mop his brow ( and a bit more ) after that
Would winds gusting 60Knts not be over limits even if it was down the runway?
as with it being very gusty and chances of wind shear
G-I-B
Would winds gusting 60Knts not be over limits even if it was down the runway?
as with it being very gusty and chances of wind shear
G-I-B
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Winds at 60 degrees to the runway and gusting to 60kts! After the first attempt I would gladly have accepted a change of underwear and a diversion thank you 
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TAF = "Terminal Area Forecast", and they look like this:
LEEDS BRADFORD EGNM 151210Z 151322 29005KT 5000 -RA SCT005 BKN010 TEMPO 1322 3000 RADZ BR SCT002 BKN004
It sets out the weather forecast over a certain period for a certain airport, in this case from 1300 to 2200 on 15 December at Leeds Bradford.
29005KT = wind from 290 at 5 knots
5000 = visibility 5000m
-RA = light rain
SCT005 BKN010 = cloud cover. Scattered at 500ft , broken at 1000ft
TEMPO 1322 3000 RADZ BR SCT002 BKN004 = temporarily, between 1300 and 2220 hours visibility will be 3000m in rain and drizzle, with some fog, and scattered cloud at 200ft, broken at 400ft.
In short it's a lovely day in Leeds!
Loads more here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termina...drome_Forecast
LEEDS BRADFORD EGNM 151210Z 151322 29005KT 5000 -RA SCT005 BKN010 TEMPO 1322 3000 RADZ BR SCT002 BKN004
It sets out the weather forecast over a certain period for a certain airport, in this case from 1300 to 2200 on 15 December at Leeds Bradford.
29005KT = wind from 290 at 5 knots
5000 = visibility 5000m
-RA = light rain
SCT005 BKN010 = cloud cover. Scattered at 500ft , broken at 1000ft
TEMPO 1322 3000 RADZ BR SCT002 BKN004 = temporarily, between 1300 and 2220 hours visibility will be 3000m in rain and drizzle, with some fog, and scattered cloud at 200ft, broken at 400ft.
In short it's a lovely day in Leeds!
Loads more here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termina...drome_Forecast
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Go to http://www.komotv.com/ then click on "High winds make for a scary landing at Sea-Tac"
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...30222&hl=en-GB
then this x-wind take-off by an Atlas 747 on r/w31 -
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...21305&hl=en-GB
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the metars posted appear to be for the wrong day
would someone post the exact time of this landing attempt including date, local or z would be fine.
I dare say a tiny bit of over controlling might have been part of the adventure.
and who says pilots don't rock and roll?
would someone post the exact time of this landing attempt including date, local or z would be fine.
I dare say a tiny bit of over controlling might have been part of the adventure.
and who says pilots don't rock and roll?
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Can't believe thats Leeds! Where has the permanent crosswind gone, only 5 kts and light rain. Will have to watch Emmerdale tonight to see how good a prediction it is.
Why don't the authorities at LBA build a new runway in the direction of the wind, make it level and fill in any large dips in the middle. I hear Jack Sugden has some land to sell down the road.
Why don't the authorities at LBA build a new runway in the direction of the wind, make it level and fill in any large dips in the middle. I hear Jack Sugden has some land to sell down the road.
For once I agree with jondc9, the 757 is fairly suceptible to pilot induced oscillations (PIO), there are numerous incidents to show that. However if done correctly the 757 handles well in crosswinds up to 35 kts (tried 50 kts in the sim and it worked...).
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well thank you.
my views were based on this. if the winds were within airline limits for NWA and BOEING when the approach was started (boeing limits probably higher) there would be a good chance that it was within limits crossing threshold. And if properly done would not have resulted in anything less than a successful landing.
While there may have been something extreme going on (which is why I still ask the exact date and time of landing), my feeling is : if you have it on autopilot for most of the flight, your "feel" of the plane is out of whack when you click off the autopilot and over control is possible.
well, the go around looked great and that is the mark of good pilot, knowing when and how to get the heck outta there.
j
well thank you.
my views were based on this. if the winds were within airline limits for NWA and BOEING when the approach was started (boeing limits probably higher) there would be a good chance that it was within limits crossing threshold. And if properly done would not have resulted in anything less than a successful landing.
While there may have been something extreme going on (which is why I still ask the exact date and time of landing), my feeling is : if you have it on autopilot for most of the flight, your "feel" of the plane is out of whack when you click off the autopilot and over control is possible.
well, the go around looked great and that is the mark of good pilot, knowing when and how to get the heck outta there.
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some more movies on crosswind :
i'd better go-around
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4je...elated&search=
test flights from Boeing with 747SP and 777:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWEVdEpf3yc
747-400 Singapore airlines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqWClugh07o&NR
i'd better go-around
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4je...elated&search=
test flights from Boeing with 747SP and 777:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWEVdEpf3yc
747-400 Singapore airlines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqWClugh07o&NR
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Liked the Zurich 14, no doubt ATC called wind down the strip 10 kts, 'cause they ALWAYS call down the strip 10kts bless 'em. Landed on 14 with proported 10kts 140 and in reality still had 25 kts tail at 40 ft.
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The Ryanir flight ahead went around and there were quite a few diversions that night (3 Dec) - it was a good ride! The pilot did specifically brief the cabin that a go-around was quite likely and explained what would happen, and I've not heard that before. Good idea though for your more nervous pax.
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