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BA Connect EMB145 - Ouch... what happened here?

Old 8th May 2006, 02:09
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Question BA Connect EMB145 - Ouch... what happened here?

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1042025/M/

Tea and biscuits for the boys after this one?
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hmmm not yet heard anything about this,but will try and find out
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Old 8th May 2006, 14:57
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Seems there was another ouch this morning, Jungle Jet taking a bolt of electricity outbound from SOU-GLA. Diverted to BOH following "burning smells".

Certainly pretty nasty wx in my part of Berks at 7am this morning. School friend of my kids house was struck, roof set on fire.
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Oh dear! Of course, since the rebrand, naughty boys and girls now have to pay for their own tea and biscuits. Would never have happened Norman's day.
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TXL is at the moment (dunno if they changed it today) restricted to the southern runway (08R/26L) and 08R was in use. On taxi for departure they apparently missed the taxiway to 08R and tried a 180 to return to 08R. Unfortunately the taxyway isn't very big.
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Old 8th May 2006, 15:55
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
Jungle Jet taking a bolt of electricity outbound from SOU-GLA. Diverted to BOH following "burning smells".
EGHH selected due to landing weight and heavy rain at EGHI after a very strong whiff of "fricasee d'electrique". No panic, no drama and well done to those involved. Pity the media turned up to report on a complete non-event.

BBC news story here in between other Dorset ripping yarns concerning bus routes and fish tanks.
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Old 8th May 2006, 18:46
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Originally Posted by Mr R Sole
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1042025/M/

Tea and biscuits for the boys after this one?
I seem to recall that Luxair ended up in a similar situation in Luxembourg with the same type not too long ago. They left the runway completely though!
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Old 8th May 2006, 20:01
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Originally Posted by CargoMatatu
I seem to recall that Luxair ended up in a similar situation in Luxembourg with the same type not too long ago. They left the runway completely though!
Luxair's 145 stayed on the taxiway all right. They ran off the runway after landing.
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Old 8th May 2006, 22:32
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Just an unfortunate incident - no damage I'm sure just a couple of red faces. Shame for the crew involved though.

FREEWAY - nowt wrong with BA Connect very professional people there.
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Freeway,

Dont show your ignorance. Nigels at BA have left the rwy as much as anyone else. It's just unfortunate for the crew involved.
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Thumbs down pathetic

Freeway,
Pretty poor dig at the crew who were trying to save time and money like any other crew, and for the others who mention reverse thrust on the 145, they don't need it if you have good piloting skills!
Face it, it was an error, we all make them some day.
Find something interesting to talk about, leave the flying to grown up's.
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Old 8th May 2006, 23:20
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Yes OK, on reflection, probably a bit inflammatory on my behalf initially.
Yes, I do agree, eire757, most unfortunate for all involved.
Have thrashed myself with a damp edition of CHIRP as recompense.!!

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I'm glad that wasn't me! Despite my ID, I now do taxi the 145 and can vouch for the fact that it requires concentration- especially the self-centring action of the nosewheel steering if you release the tiller.
Please note I am not suggesting that is what happened here. Whatever the cause, once the excursion had happened, they stopped- there are operators who would have tried to taxi off the grass and cover up their mistake. Even professionals have bad days- the fact that we are able to look at this picture is in fact proof of the professionalism of their operation- even if they are the competition!
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Old 9th May 2006, 05:09
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If you click on the relevant text below the picture it leads to........

G-EMBC (cn 145024) OOOOOOOOOOPPP!!!! Out of the taxiway ! Crew tried to turn plane back on too narrow taxiway.
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Old 9th May 2006, 06:48
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Originally Posted by tallaonehotel
........and for the others who mention reverse thrust on the 145, they don't need it if you have good piloting skills !
It was deemed unnecessary to provide thrust reversers on the 145 fleet that the BA CON boys and girls operate. Draw your own conclusions.

Glad to see you have pulled your original post Freeway. Subject closed !
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The reality of it all is that the dreadful management in MAN will have a field day and without doubt humiliate the crew for what is just an unfortunate event.They relish a Witchhunt at BACON.

Suspended, called to head office for tea and bacon rolls along with the BALPA reps so that DD,CP & his Highness can all have thier say!

Number one uniforms and don't forget to wear your hats chaps! good luck.
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Originally Posted by Volmet South
It was deemed unnecessary to provide thrust reversers on the 145 fleet that the BA CON boys and girls operate. Draw your own conclusions.
Glad to see you have pulled your original post Freeway. Subject closed !

Are you referring to pilot skills there or the cost saving process of ordering the 145 without reversers?

The idea of replacing the reversers seemed a good one until someone realised that the A/C is that crap and nose heavy that it needs ballast to stay in trim.........So why take the reversers out? Oh yeah, it must be the amazing piloting skills of the BACON crew!
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Old 9th May 2006, 16:59
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Longchop-

EMB reversers cost you 1000Kg and god knows how many $$$$ and you can not schedule landing perf to take into account you have them, so for once, I can agree that Brymon and the Hat wearing Manx/Regional lot did the right thing not to specify them when ordering the 145 for Uk/NW Europe ops.
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Old 9th May 2006, 17:48
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the aircraft dug its way down to the axle so a quick taxy out was not an option. but I fail to see how a thrust reverser would have helped
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Old 9th May 2006, 22:09
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fish

Witch hunt I hear you say !! Not at all - as long as you follow company SOP , that is to say - put the orange tabard on, place hat firmly on head, dive into the cabin and scream to the punters "follow me chaps !" before diving out the main door.

jobs a good one !!!

(you can just imagine the changes to SOP's which will follow )
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