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Old 4th Feb 2002, 10:23
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Question Hard landing in UK ?

I was on my way out the door the other night when I caught a news story re the weather in the UK. . .There was some footage of what they said was a "private jet", crabbing in on what was obviously a gale force crosswind.. .Just before the gear hit the tar, it must have copped a gust as it violently rolled to the left and the port wing looked like it hit the dirt, before correcting. New pair of undies for the crew I suspect. Excellent recovery though.. .Anyone else see this, and if so what was the outcome ? Any damage ?
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Good attitude you are a bit behind the news, I believe it was a shot of an aircraft landing at Leeds on Friday. They walked away from it! Having had to make 3 approaches myself at BHX I have to question my own common sense. The trouble was the weather was equally bad at the diversions so you pays your money and..... .Next time I see a weather system approaching the UK that synoptically resembles a Zebra's rearend I'm going sick!
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Biz jet landing did look a bit on the hairy side...still, it's all character building stuff!
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Thanks BP

That's the Aussie media for you. Sometimes they show us file footage from a couple of years back and try to pass it off as current. Creative license or something like that.

Certainly made for momentary heart in the mouth viewing.
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Can I just say to all the pilots who flew into LGW on friday, you caused me to get hardly any work done. Watching you struggle(?) with that (at times) 40kt crosswind and the windshear off those damn hangars was most entertaining! Next time I'm putting the blinds down so as not to get distracted.. .Best landing of the day?. .Air Europa 737 - flew it straight into the runway at what looked like cruising speed! nutter
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flew one approach into LCY on friday then the big yellow stripe down my back made me divert to STN!! what a day! washing machine now full of soiled undies!!
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I gather that there was do damage done, but the paint got a little scraped.

It was a German registered Challenger 604.
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driver 1, you are my kind of pilot! I think I will fly with you in the future, as you seem to value your hide as much as I do mine.

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A320 was a handful on approach to 23 at LHR. Thank heavens it was only 40 degrees off. It was sure gusty, up to 48 knots.

LHR tower reported numerous go-arounds. I did one myself due windshear alert. Got in on second approach.

A real adrenalin rush. Better than Alton Towers.
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I wonder what a certain individual (not heard from for a few weeks) thinks of all you "Button Pushers" and "System Monitors" now??? <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

For those that missed that nights news check the link below to the BBC website:-

<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1795000/video/_1796668_weather18_marston_vi.ram" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1795000/video/_1796668_weather18_marston_vi.ram</a>

You will need "Real Player" to view it. Scary. Very scary!

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driver1 what happens to the pax when you divert to STN from LCY? Are they allowed to disembark there with their baggage?. .How long before you could position back to LCY?. .Cheers!
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Gentlemen

Are there airlines and or aircraft with crosswindlimits of more than 30 kts (including gusts)?. .From some of your posts it sure seems that crosswinds were more than 30 kts.. .In my airline this is not allowed. Can anyone enlighten me?

Fly safe. .Sleeper
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sleeper, I fly 73’s for a US carrier. Our max steady crosswind is 35 knots. Gusts are not a limiting factor and are advisory only.
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A320/321

29 gusting 38 for take off. .33 gusting 38 for landing

(both Max demonstrated)
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I'm not sure what all the excitement's about - this was just a normal day at Leeds. If you fancy some exciting flying, try the LBA 14 approach with a gusty south westerly. Please bring alternative underwear. It whitens those knuckles!
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I fly my own company single engine and after seeing what you guys coped with I have tremendous admiration for your skills. Question. My aircraft is very responsive but yours must not be so, how the hell do you do it in such violent conditions?
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You won't believe but it works:. .I never have the thrust levers at idle before touchdown (just a bit fwd) with the wind in excess of 10 kt!, immediately after touchdown only.. .I know the western pilots don't like that, I do not understand why, if the RW is 4000m in lenth?
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Apologies for the slight thread creep but having landed at LGW today, just as the next batch of c**p fell out of the sky, I started wondering why so many UK airports have an (in)conveniently placed hangar or office building just upwind of the threshold of the most-used runway.

27L @ LHR has BA & BMi buildings, 24 @ MAN has the CAA tower (a real peril in a strong NW blow), 26L @ LGW the BA base etc. etc.

These edifices seem almost to be designed to create the worst sort of turbulence at low level; I think they shed enormous vortices at regular intervals. No effort seems to have been made to 'feather' the edges of the buildings or aerodynamically tailor them to produce less of a wake. There also seem to be large unused (or used for carparks) areas around the runways which could have been developed, but no, they build as close as they can get to the numbers. I notice that around Europe the areas around the ends of the runways are left pretty clear.

Am I being paranoid?
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Remember hangar 3 @ BHX?
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Challenger reg. was 'thankyou' in German.

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