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Old 5th Feb 2002, 01:49
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Our 737's have a crosswind for LANDING of 40kts on dry runway or wet runway. Our take off is restricted to 35kts dry (25kts wet).

I thought this was about the industry norm for the Boeings?
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Full_Wings - its odd at LGW. if you look at the MET office page, the prevailing wind at LGW is Southwesterly and where are the 3 hangars placed in relation to the threshold of 26L? to the Southwest... beats me.... .Who planned it all?!
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Don't worry Full_Wings it's not you. It's probably the daily venting of hot air that goes on from these places, they seem to produce more wind than my bowels after a madras.

You should try landing at Luton some early mornings, after the EasyJet beings have had a brainstorming session.

Can't understand why their hot air reduces visibility so much, maybe it's because it's orange!


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I believe many years ago the hangars at LGW, were called 'BCALS revenge'or something similar - they can induce an interesting sensation prior to touching down in this WX .

Has anyone previous/current experience of similar conditions flying into GIB ,or the original Funchal airport (v short runway on the side of a rock,suspended either end, with sheer drops onto more rocks) - had many go-arounds at both in wintertime in the past .. .Excellent flying by the guys up front always got us in though - just - !
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Came into LHR as Pax on BA319 from CDG last night - good work from Captain who had warned us it was going to be a bit rough. All went well until the flare on 27L when a gust had us nearly sitting on the left wingtip - round of applause from pax after we were attached to ground. Seemed like hard work to me...

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I saw a 747-400 landing on 23. I thought 23 was too short for heavies, must have had to brake very hard to stop
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LHR 23 is a bit limiting for a 744 but the big Boeing works pretty well.

We landed yesterday pm at max permitted weight , full reverse and max autobrake - could have turned onto 27L.

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I remember going into Suburgh (EGPB) mid 70's. .wind 240/70g80 one guy says "let us know when there is a lull" ATC " This is the lull!". .Seriously, been into EGKK acouple of times in the last few days, hard work! Sitting at the holding point seen some pretty impressive handling. well done guys n galls.

On another point, being past the age of reason and having to fly a turbo prop, I found the sheer physical effort required to put the beast on the ground, quite demanding. How do some of our more slightly built female colleagues cope with this?

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<img src="cool.gif" border="0"> Anti-ice, I fly 737 and based in Funchal, used the old runway (06-24) then the intermediate runway (05-23 short), and since september 2000 we`ve been using the brand new 05-23, 2880m long. . .I don`t know if you keep flying to funchal, but the approach for runway 23 is much worst than the old 24. you fly much closer to the rocks and when the wind blows from 180 to 240 winds from 15 Kts or more can produce severe windshear at 50 feet or bellow. Few days ago I had to GA and into Porto Santo, the Hapag Lloyd A310 was the only one who made it for the entire day on rwy 23. And there is still no app aid for that runway (obstructions). So you have to fly visually from the VOR to the runway. (4.5 NM if you remember) <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

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Hi just an update for you guys. .on Friday the 1st there were 24 go arounds at LGW compared to 10 at LHR. Obviously 23 helped , perhaps they wont dig it up now and extend Terminal 1 !!.

Just one more thing when i was on duty on the following monday when 23 was promulgated with gusts to 47kts there were some very dubious landings and it seemd the A319/A320's had the most problems. B737's seemed ok. The B747's had no problems at all apart from the JAL that didnt like it at all and when to the sticks (Stansted

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Just as an aside, my office is about 0.5 miles south of Gatwick, right on the path that the diversions follow. A big thanks to all of you guys who had to go around over the last few days, it really cheered me up watching everyone running for cover every time a heavy rolled overhead!

Keep up the good work chaps!

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