Air France crash at YYZ (Merged)
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from pulse24.com, someone who heard from a pax on that plane.
Pax survived and called her friend: pax reported bumpy landing, think tires expoded, evacuated saw fire, some injuries (broken legs etc.)
Pax flys often, was of opinion that approach was too high, then lost alltitude suddenly and bounced on runway
Was sitting near rear of plane. Thinks most got off, but not sure.
Pax survived and called her friend: pax reported bumpy landing, think tires expoded, evacuated saw fire, some injuries (broken legs etc.)
Pax flys often, was of opinion that approach was too high, then lost alltitude suddenly and bounced on runway
Was sitting near rear of plane. Thinks most got off, but not sure.
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What do you know...two pages on PPRuNe and no-one slagging off the media for doing their job. I do believe this forum is actually becoming civilised. Be nice if it stays that way, especially as everyone seems to be relying on journalists in order to know anything.
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Just for the record, last 12 hrs METARs
Source: http://euro.wx.propilots.net/
CYYZ 022100Z 18013KT 8SM -TSRA BKN055 BKN140 22/19 A3004 RERA RMK SC5AC2 CB ASOCTD FU ALF SLP171 =
CYYZ 022020Z 34024G33KT 3SM +TSRA FEW015 OVC040TCU 23/ RMK SF2TCU6 CB ASOCTD =
CYYZ 022000Z 29011KT 4SM +TSRA BKN051TCU BKN140 23/22 A3002 RMK TCU6AC1 CB ASOCTD LTGCC VIS LWR SW-NW 2 SLP164 =
CYYZ 022004Z CCA 34024G33KT 1 1/4SM +TSRA SCT015 OVC045TCU 23/ RMK RA2SF2TCU5 CB ASOCTD =
CYYZ 022004Z 34024G33KT 1 1/4SM +TSRA SCT015 OVC045TCU RMK RA2SF2TCU5 CB ASOCTD =
CYYZ 022000Z 29011KT 4SM +TSRA BKN051TCU BKN140 23/22 A3002 RMK TCU6AC1 CB ASOCTD LTGCC VIS LWR SW-NW 2 SLP164 =
CYYZ 021900Z 22007KT 4SM +TSRA BKN050TCU BKN080 24/23 A3003 RMK TCU6AC1 CB ASOCTD SLP168 =
CYYZ 021800Z 12002KT 8SM -TSRA SCT035TCU BKN090 23/22 A3003 RERA RMK TCU3AC3 CB ASOCTD SLP167 =
CYYZ 021728Z CCA 13003KT 10SM TS SCT040TCU BKN090 23/ RERA RMK TCU4AC2 CB ASOCTD =
CYYZ 021728Z 13003KT 10SM TS SCT040TCU BKN090 23/ RMK TCU4AC2CB ASOCTD =
CYYZ 021700Z 08008G16KT 10SM -TSRA BKN040TCU BKN080 24/21 A3005 RMK TCU6AC2 CB ASOCTD LTGCG VIS LWR E / NW SLP174 =
CYYZ 021715Z 29003KT 2SM +TSRA OVC040TCU 23/ RMK RA1TCU7 CBASOCTD LTGCG =
CYYZ 021700Z 08008G16KT 10SM -TSRA BKN040TCU BKN080 24/21 A3005 RMK TCU6AC2 CB ASOCTD LTGCG VIS LWR E / NW SLP174 =
CYYZ 021621Z 33003KT 12SM -TSRA BKN047 30/ RMK CU6 CB ASOCTD N =
CYYZ 021613Z 31007KT 12SM TS BKN046 BKN260 31/ RMK CU6CI0 CBASOCTD N =
CYYZ 021600Z 33003KT 15SM SCT045 SCT120 SCT260 30/20 A3005 RMK CU3AC1CI0 AC TR SLP173 =
CYYZ 021500Z 34004KT 15SM FEW040 FEW120 FEW260 29/18 A3006 RMK CU1AC1CI0 SLP177 =
CYYZ 021400Z 36004KT 15SM FEW035 FEW260 28/19 A3007 RMK CU1CI0 SLP179 =
CYYZ 021300Z 32004KT 10SM FEW100 FEW230 26/20 A3008 RMK AC1CI1 SLP183 =
CYYZ 021200Z 32004KT 10SM FEW100 FEW230 24/20 A3007 RMK AC1CI1 SLP180 =
CYYZ 021100Z 00000KT 12SM FEW100 FEW230 22/20 A3006 RMK AC1CI1 SLP176 =
CYYZ 021000Z 00000KT 12SM FEW100 FEW260 22/20 A3005 RMK AC1CI1 SLP172 =
CYYZ 020900Z 34002KT 15SM SKC 22/19 A3004 RMK SLP168 =
Source: http://euro.wx.propilots.net/
CYYZ 022100Z 18013KT 8SM -TSRA BKN055 BKN140 22/19 A3004 RERA RMK SC5AC2 CB ASOCTD FU ALF SLP171 =
CYYZ 022020Z 34024G33KT 3SM +TSRA FEW015 OVC040TCU 23/ RMK SF2TCU6 CB ASOCTD =
CYYZ 022000Z 29011KT 4SM +TSRA BKN051TCU BKN140 23/22 A3002 RMK TCU6AC1 CB ASOCTD LTGCC VIS LWR SW-NW 2 SLP164 =
CYYZ 022004Z CCA 34024G33KT 1 1/4SM +TSRA SCT015 OVC045TCU 23/ RMK RA2SF2TCU5 CB ASOCTD =
CYYZ 022004Z 34024G33KT 1 1/4SM +TSRA SCT015 OVC045TCU RMK RA2SF2TCU5 CB ASOCTD =
CYYZ 022000Z 29011KT 4SM +TSRA BKN051TCU BKN140 23/22 A3002 RMK TCU6AC1 CB ASOCTD LTGCC VIS LWR SW-NW 2 SLP164 =
CYYZ 021900Z 22007KT 4SM +TSRA BKN050TCU BKN080 24/23 A3003 RMK TCU6AC1 CB ASOCTD SLP168 =
CYYZ 021800Z 12002KT 8SM -TSRA SCT035TCU BKN090 23/22 A3003 RERA RMK TCU3AC3 CB ASOCTD SLP167 =
CYYZ 021728Z CCA 13003KT 10SM TS SCT040TCU BKN090 23/ RERA RMK TCU4AC2 CB ASOCTD =
CYYZ 021728Z 13003KT 10SM TS SCT040TCU BKN090 23/ RMK TCU4AC2CB ASOCTD =
CYYZ 021700Z 08008G16KT 10SM -TSRA BKN040TCU BKN080 24/21 A3005 RMK TCU6AC2 CB ASOCTD LTGCG VIS LWR E / NW SLP174 =
CYYZ 021715Z 29003KT 2SM +TSRA OVC040TCU 23/ RMK RA1TCU7 CBASOCTD LTGCG =
CYYZ 021700Z 08008G16KT 10SM -TSRA BKN040TCU BKN080 24/21 A3005 RMK TCU6AC2 CB ASOCTD LTGCG VIS LWR E / NW SLP174 =
CYYZ 021621Z 33003KT 12SM -TSRA BKN047 30/ RMK CU6 CB ASOCTD N =
CYYZ 021613Z 31007KT 12SM TS BKN046 BKN260 31/ RMK CU6CI0 CBASOCTD N =
CYYZ 021600Z 33003KT 15SM SCT045 SCT120 SCT260 30/20 A3005 RMK CU3AC1CI0 AC TR SLP173 =
CYYZ 021500Z 34004KT 15SM FEW040 FEW120 FEW260 29/18 A3006 RMK CU1AC1CI0 SLP177 =
CYYZ 021400Z 36004KT 15SM FEW035 FEW260 28/19 A3007 RMK CU1CI0 SLP179 =
CYYZ 021300Z 32004KT 10SM FEW100 FEW230 26/20 A3008 RMK AC1CI1 SLP183 =
CYYZ 021200Z 32004KT 10SM FEW100 FEW230 24/20 A3007 RMK AC1CI1 SLP180 =
CYYZ 021100Z 00000KT 12SM FEW100 FEW230 22/20 A3006 RMK AC1CI1 SLP176 =
CYYZ 021000Z 00000KT 12SM FEW100 FEW260 22/20 A3005 RMK AC1CI1 SLP172 =
CYYZ 020900Z 34002KT 15SM SKC 22/19 A3004 RMK SLP168 =
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I hope all are safe, and whilst I'm not having the usual media rant I thought mistaking an A340 for a 737 was pretty poor but not unexpected. Mistaking it for an A350 however is absolutely brilliant!
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Air France A340 (252 seat configuration).
Flight AF358 (as quoted by a ticket agent in Montreal).
Reports from witnesses on the freeway of aircraft skidding off end of runway into a gully, splitting in half and being engulfed in flames.
Poor weather. Reports of thunderstorm and saturated runway. Looks like a major incident.
I don't know time of landing however, watching BBC News 24 and witnessed explosions only about 10 mins ago (22:00h GMT). Obviously my best hopes for the passengers, crew and emergency workers.
Flight AF358 (as quoted by a ticket agent in Montreal).
Reports from witnesses on the freeway of aircraft skidding off end of runway into a gully, splitting in half and being engulfed in flames.
Poor weather. Reports of thunderstorm and saturated runway. Looks like a major incident.
I don't know time of landing however, watching BBC News 24 and witnessed explosions only about 10 mins ago (22:00h GMT). Obviously my best hopes for the passengers, crew and emergency workers.
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they are taking a very long time to put the fire out have been watching cnn for 30 mins looks like its gone nose first into the gully.
not looking good my thoughts are with all soles on board
rampman
not looking good my thoughts are with all soles on board
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The Toronto Globe and Mail is reporting that there are survivors. See below. This contradicts a CNN witness who was parked next to the crash site when the crash happened, who did not report anyone coming on to the highway from the crash site.
Air France jet crashes at Pearson Airport
By UNNATI GANDHI
Tuesday, August 2, 2005 Updated at 5:19 PM EDT
Globe and Mail Update
An Air France passenger plane has crashed and burned near Toronto's Highway 401 after skidding off the runway while trying to land at Pearson International Airport.
The pilot and an unknown number of passengers have been taken to hospital, Peel Region police say.
"The A340 Airbus plane was landing when it ran off the runway about 4 p.m.," said Sgt. Glyn Griffiths.
"A pilot has gone to hospital; they were picked up on the 401 and a number of other passengers were wandering around the area so we're trying to head them off. I haven't got any information on casualties at all."
The plane was attempting to land on runway 2-4-left on Tuesday when it ran into trouble. While a number of sources say there were about 200 passengers on board, an A340 Airbus can hold up to 303 passengers.
The Air France flight AF358 left Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris at 1:32 local time and was to land at 4:12 p.m. Toronto time.
Black smoke could be seen billowing into the stormy sky Tuesday afternoon, as commuters slowed down to look at the wreckage during rush hour traffic on Canada's busiest highway.
Sgt. Griffiths said emergency and fire crews from several divisions as well as at the airport responded to the crash.
Air France jet crashes at Pearson Airport
By UNNATI GANDHI
Tuesday, August 2, 2005 Updated at 5:19 PM EDT
Globe and Mail Update
An Air France passenger plane has crashed and burned near Toronto's Highway 401 after skidding off the runway while trying to land at Pearson International Airport.
The pilot and an unknown number of passengers have been taken to hospital, Peel Region police say.
"The A340 Airbus plane was landing when it ran off the runway about 4 p.m.," said Sgt. Glyn Griffiths.
"A pilot has gone to hospital; they were picked up on the 401 and a number of other passengers were wandering around the area so we're trying to head them off. I haven't got any information on casualties at all."
The plane was attempting to land on runway 2-4-left on Tuesday when it ran into trouble. While a number of sources say there were about 200 passengers on board, an A340 Airbus can hold up to 303 passengers.
The Air France flight AF358 left Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris at 1:32 local time and was to land at 4:12 p.m. Toronto time.
Black smoke could be seen billowing into the stormy sky Tuesday afternoon, as commuters slowed down to look at the wreckage during rush hour traffic on Canada's busiest highway.
Sgt. Griffiths said emergency and fire crews from several divisions as well as at the airport responded to the crash.
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Very serious accident. After more than an hour naked flames from the fuselage still visible after tons of foam and water applied. Hope for pax safety - as many as possible. Surprised the cops have not dealt with the looky-loos. My old hunting ground.
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News coverage from Canada
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/home/
http://www.canada.com/national/index.html
CBC with pictures
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...ane050802.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/home/
http://www.canada.com/national/index.html
CBC with pictures
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...ane050802.html
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Hope to hell all are okay... fingers crossed, despite the self professed gloom and doom merchants!!... step up Learmont, make the most of it... (again)
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BBC News24 is carrying Canadian TV interviewing live someone who was on the plane - he said that power was lost before landing "all the lights out".
Hoping that reports that everyone evacuated safely are correct.
Hoping that reports that everyone evacuated safely are correct.