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Old 1st Mar 2005, 15:42
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fire at manchester

yahoo want a kick up the a ----- for publishing such a photo
and comments. i was there this morning
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John Travolta/ONJ Expertise required here

"Grease is the Word"

LINK

I believe some knowledgeable PIA frequent fliers were heard singing

"Grease is the Word"

as they slid down the chutes.
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Old 1st Mar 2005, 15:50
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LFC RED,

Wholeheartedly agree

That report is an absolute disgrace. Unbelieveably, although they've changed the photograph the report is still there now complete with this headline:
Hundreds In Burning Plane Horror
I've looked for an e-mail address to complain to them about it but they don't seem to have one. Typical

This is the best I can find although it's certainly not what's required...

http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/writeus/suggest.html
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Old 1st Mar 2005, 16:13
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I have a picture if someone will tell me how to post it here.
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Quote from Yahoo report:

Buses took the passengers to the Terminal 2 building, where paramedics treated the wounded
How many people got off that aircraft and could honestly claim to be wounded??? Unless you can call a small friction burn to your @rse a wound?! It makes it sound like people were maimed getting off that aircraft...

Irresponsible reporting, yes - but did anybody expect anything less?
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Old 1st Mar 2005, 16:19
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At 1720Z these are the 'From other Sites' headlines off BBC:

Mirror 300 Flee In Manchester Jet Fire Scare - 2 hrs ago
CNN Smoke forces jet evacuation - 2 hrs ago
Independent Passengers taken off plane in runway emergency - 4 hrs ago
Daily Express 300 Passengers In Plane Alert - 5 hrs ago
Daily Mail News: Hundreds flee aircraft blaze in Manchester - 5 hrs ago

You've got to wonder about the standards of journalism. Shocking. Absolutely Shocking.

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Old 1st Mar 2005, 17:29
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I saw the Yahoo! story and was shocked, until I noticed the "eyebrow" windows and realised that 300 would not fit on a 73.

What a disgraceful use of library pix, without a prominent caption.
 
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How many people got off that aircraft and could honestly claim to be wounded??? Unless you can call a small friction burn to your @rse a wound?! It makes it sound like people were maimed getting off that aircraft...
From memory, and it's a little rusty at the moment, I seem to recall that the "expected" injury rate when using evacutaion slides is about 3%. On that basis, if there were 300 on board, there could be 9 people with things like sprained ankles, or wrists, or even possibly in extreme cases, fractures, as not all passengers have the mobility, flexibility or speed of response to cope with exiting via a slide.

There will also be shock, and disortientation, and other issues that need to be checked out, so it's appropriate to be safe rather than sorry in this case.
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Old 1st Mar 2005, 17:51
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I watched the hole event unfold from our office on B-pier. Very well handled by all concerned. All very calm and professional.

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I never blame pilots. It will be a sad day when pax can dictate the procedure of a flight (see other thread about my home town). But was this the grease - again.....again? Let's see, if so, blame purchasing idiots, purchasing management idiots or terribly sloppy mechs?
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Its just like Groundhog day.........

Every day you go to work, and the PK 777 undercarriage is on fire.


Plus if Sky News says its a 737 then its a 737.

I remember a recent incident at Man, And Sky said it happened at LHR.


God bless SKY... I think not..


So says the slug................
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Old 1st Mar 2005, 22:02
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Cool

But was this the grease - again
Nope correct grease now in use, fault was a leaking brake unit.



blame purchasing idiots, purchasing management idiots or terribly sloppy mechs?
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Old 2nd Mar 2005, 19:47
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Nope correct grease now in use, fault was a leaking brake unit.
Nice try spanners, but utterly wrong!! Wait for the report after tomorrows taxi tests!!!!
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The PIA B777 brake assys are from Goodrich and have the special procedure to fill in the grease while refurbished/repacked in the shop.

Earlier it was blamed on the wrong type of grease used which was NYCO (European brand of grease usually for Airbus), after a couple incidents of brake fire, PIA started using the right type of grease Aeroshell 22 (American brand of grease meant for use on Boeings), but unfortunately that was not the problem. The actual facts are somewhat different than using the wrong and then right types of greases. One of the difference is the flash point of the two greases.

One relief flight took the passengers from Man. to YYZ . The aircraft AP-BGL is still in Man. They are working on it to get it airworthy.

I would like to add here one more thing, there are only 12 incidents of similar nature on B777s , out of which 6 were with PIA. Goodrich is the boeing approved manufacturer for B777s brake assemblies.

The result of a minor mistake cost PIA a fortune, Slide rafts, Engine fire extinguishers, brake assy, wheels, down-time of the aircraft, and top of everything unsatisfied customers.
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Pprune's resident expert on anything aeronautical seems to be keeping a low profile .

That burning 707 might have been the result of testing the polyester seat fabrics? Just one burning seat can fill the area with deadly smoke. Nice ad for a US law firm, the type which 'chases ambulances', like a dog barking at a jogger?

And Fritzi: would you also bestellen us spaetzle instead of pommes frites (prefer to stay a bit schlank-and my wife hides the chips)? Thanks .

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Old 3rd Mar 2005, 05:29
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Google: "More than 300 passengers of a Pakistan International Airways (PIA) flight escaped through emergency parachutes after the plane caught fire at Manchester Airport in northwestern England on Tuesday, Xinhua reports."

Where do they keep the parachutes for pax? How come they never mention that "your emergency parachute is under your seat" during the F/A safety briefing? Does this incident mean all pax will now have to wear parachutes as a matter of course? Isn't it a bit risky jumping from an aircraft that's on the ground hoping your parachute will open in time? Google really does need to address these issues if they want to be taken seriously.

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Old 3rd Mar 2005, 05:34
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You have copy pasted material directly from another source.If you need to do that, then please give credit to the relevant author & forum.
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Old 3rd Mar 2005, 13:44
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You have copy pasted material directly from another source.If you need to do that, then please give credit to the relevant author & forum.
Do you mean to say that this is not GF-A320 own writing?

bad show for tricking us GF
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Old 5th Mar 2005, 02:07
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Google really does need to address these issues if they want to be taken seriously.
Google does not write news. Google News is a search engine that presents news from many sources.

I believe the Indo-Asian News Service should be the real target of your comments.
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Old 5th Mar 2005, 07:21
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To contact Yahoo...

Yahoo! UK Ltd
10 Ebury Bridge Road
London
SW1W 8PZ

tel 020 7808 4200
fax 020 7808 4203

What's the bet they don't even bother to reply to complaints?
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