Another Channex incident.
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Another Channex incident.
From the 6th June Jersey Evening Post:-
A TRAGEDY was averted yesterday morning when a cargo plane developed an engine fire just after take-off but managed to land safely.
The Channel Express plane was forced to return to the Airport just minutes after getting airborne, and was met by Airport Fire and Rescue Services.
Although debris dropped from the engine during the brief flight, no one – including the three crew members – was injured.
The flight took off for Bournemouth from the easterly runway just before midday, but within a few minutes Captain David Maxwell notified ground control that the port engine was on fire. He triggered the onboard extinguishers which put the fire out.
Mr Maxwell then landed the plane safely, and Airport fire and rescue services accompanied the plane to the freight terminal.
Engineers are currently preparing a report for the air accident investigation board.
Airport director Mike Lanyon said that the cause of the fire was unknown at this stage. However, it is understood that the plane had been delayed earlier that morning because of engine trouble.
A TRAGEDY was averted yesterday morning when a cargo plane developed an engine fire just after take-off but managed to land safely.
The Channel Express plane was forced to return to the Airport just minutes after getting airborne, and was met by Airport Fire and Rescue Services.
Although debris dropped from the engine during the brief flight, no one – including the three crew members – was injured.
The flight took off for Bournemouth from the easterly runway just before midday, but within a few minutes Captain David Maxwell notified ground control that the port engine was on fire. He triggered the onboard extinguishers which put the fire out.
Mr Maxwell then landed the plane safely, and Airport fire and rescue services accompanied the plane to the freight terminal.
Engineers are currently preparing a report for the air accident investigation board.
Airport director Mike Lanyon said that the cause of the fire was unknown at this stage. However, it is understood that the plane had been delayed earlier that morning because of engine trouble.
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OK, give me a carefully reasoned, well measured and logical argument against Channex. Anyone can have an engine go BANG, it happens. The point is that the man did the job and got the aeroplane on the ground with no probs and, more importantly, everyone walked away from it. Cowboys would have crashed - Dave Maxwell didn't. He did the job as advertised in what is, I believe, an aeroplane that is marginal on one engine. (Any F27 drivers out there might wish to confirm/deny this). If a BA jet suffered an engine failure on take-off, and the captain went round and landed safely, would you call them cowboys? Yeah, you probably would, coz I bet they turned you down for a job too!!
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Barcode,
check your original post you hypocritical gimp !.
I knew Dave when he was an L188 crew member, well done mate. Whats the matter Barcode, Channel turned you down for a job ?.
Edited to say "SNAP" to Vmike (check posting times !).
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check your original post you hypocritical gimp !.
I knew Dave when he was an L188 crew member, well done mate. Whats the matter Barcode, Channel turned you down for a job ?.
Edited to say "SNAP" to Vmike (check posting times !).
[This message has been edited by ragspanner (edited 08 June 2001).]
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Not defending barcode, but...
Channex had an unfortunate accident in GCI due to incorrect loading after which they banned their crews from landing with full flap. Net result of this policy is that they have now had 1 aircraft go through the hedge at Coventry and also a VERY close shave at STN which is detailed in the latest AAIB bulletin where the resultant lack of drag has been a contributing factor.
If there was a problem with the loading in the GCI incident surely the right thing to do is (re)teach loading rather than change the way it has been operated for 40years?
Note also the comment in the JEP report of the previous tech delay. Might something have not been done up the way it should resulting in a fuel leak?
[This message has been edited by Flap40 (edited 09 June 2001).]
Channex had an unfortunate accident in GCI due to incorrect loading after which they banned their crews from landing with full flap. Net result of this policy is that they have now had 1 aircraft go through the hedge at Coventry and also a VERY close shave at STN which is detailed in the latest AAIB bulletin where the resultant lack of drag has been a contributing factor.
If there was a problem with the loading in the GCI incident surely the right thing to do is (re)teach loading rather than change the way it has been operated for 40years?
Note also the comment in the JEP report of the previous tech delay. Might something have not been done up the way it should resulting in a fuel leak?
[This message has been edited by Flap40 (edited 09 June 2001).]
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Why do so many poeple slag off channex. We all know they made you work hard for your money, and the money is not the best in the world. But thats business. At least they have a healthy business and plenty of seats to keep us drivers in work.
Lighten up guys...
Lighten up guys...
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Hogg - I couldn't disagree more. It's one thing practicing an emergency procedure every six months - it's another having to put it into effect without warning. It's not just another day at the office. All the crew deserve whatever praise comes thier way. I can only presume either you've not had an emergency yourself yet or if you have it never got any press coverage?
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Chubbs,
Sorry my old cherry but I disagree with you. An engine failure, fire (a contained one!) or any other regularly practiced emergency is only a big deal to those whom have trouble doing them correctly in a simulated environment. The actual emergency in the aeroplane (or practiced) is without a doubt easier to handle than a simulator induced one.
It sounds like the CREW handled this one well, I bet they also handle their 6 monthly checks well and weren´t terribly phased by this event.
We gotta get tougher in the simulator etc to stop others not as proficient ´getting thru´ regardless of economics!
Sorry my old cherry but I disagree with you. An engine failure, fire (a contained one!) or any other regularly practiced emergency is only a big deal to those whom have trouble doing them correctly in a simulated environment. The actual emergency in the aeroplane (or practiced) is without a doubt easier to handle than a simulator induced one.
It sounds like the CREW handled this one well, I bet they also handle their 6 monthly checks well and weren´t terribly phased by this event.
We gotta get tougher in the simulator etc to stop others not as proficient ´getting thru´ regardless of economics!
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My information is the First officer was the handling pilot on his first handling trip of line training apparently Dave took control when the aircraft was level downwind.An uncontained turbine failure is not to my mind a run of the mill failure, but this was dealt with well by the crew working as a crew.
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Barcode you are IMHO an arse.
Flaps 40, all aircrew at Channex go thro an initial and yearly Mass + Balance/ Loading course specific to A/C type. It was one of the recommendations from the C.A.A.
Well done David, good job. P.S will it do a trip Buddyboy?
Flaps 40, all aircrew at Channex go thro an initial and yearly Mass + Balance/ Loading course specific to A/C type. It was one of the recommendations from the C.A.A.
Well done David, good job. P.S will it do a trip Buddyboy?