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Ryanair: 100 new aircraft, 800 new pilots

Old 24th Jan 2002, 19:06
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This has to be good news, despite all the well-aired opinions on Ryanair:

(From ireland.com)

Ryanair €10bn plane deal to create 3,000 jobs

Last updated: 24-01-02, 11:31

Budget airline Ryanair has ordered 100 Boeing 737 aircraft and taken options for 50 more in a deal worth €10.2 billion, it said today.

The multi-billion deal with Boeing will create over 3,000 jobs. Ryanair said it would need 800 new pilots and 2,000 cabin crew as well as 400 engineers and operations staff.

The 100 new 737-800s aircraft are scheduled to be delivered to Ryanair, which has an all-Boeing fleet, beginning in 2002 and continuing through 2010, Boeing and Ryanair said in a joint statement.

"We have found through experience that the 737 provides the unbeatable cost economies and reliability you need to be a profitable low-fare airline," Ryanair chief executive Mr Michael O'Leary told reporters.

Analysts believe the carrier achieved very attractive pricing on the aircraft, with a discount of perhaps 30 per cent, exceeding even the routine price cuts that civil-aircraft manufacturers offer.

Ryanair is one of the few airlines in a position to buy aircraft at the moment, as the industry suffers from over-capacity created by a global economic slowdown and the impact of the September 11th attacks on travel markets.

It has gone on the offensive in recent months, seeking to exploit the malaise of the national flag carriers, which have seen bookings fall sharply since the September 11th suicide assaults on the United States.

The order is a significant boost for US Boeing, which has seen its order book overtaken by that of European rival Airbus.

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Old 24th Jan 2002, 19:29
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Heard comparisons made to Air Europe which went bust, don't know about that, before my time.

Good quote from MOL though... .Asked where he would like to see extra runway capacity in England, Mr O'Leary said his preference would be another runway at Stansted airport in Essex.. . He added: "I don't mind where as long as it is done quickly and we don't have another long public inquiry. Even environmental protesters want their two weeks in Ibiza each summer when they have spent their time on the picket line."

you've got to laugh at the guy
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Great news for British pilots - especially those without many prospects at BA, Virgin, etc....

Hey, flying an advanced 737-800 around Europe for "pretty good" pay wouldn't be too bad. Let's just hope MOL's ego doesn't grow too much as a result - I hear working for him can be difficult (Herb Kelleher he is NOT).

It will be interesting to watch Easyjet's reaction - I am sure Airbus is REALLY motivated to make a deal...

It will be fun to watch the Ryanair/Easyjet/GO rivalries grow in the future...

. .Cheers
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Yes it is good news.. .800 new pilot jobs.. .Well thats 800 x 50 to start with. . .Plus the cost of the interview thats another rake of money.
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Don't really mean to be negative but. .100 A/C 800 pilots = 4 crew per A/C. . .Nuff Said
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"Ryanair is going to be a monster in Europe in the next 10 years," Ryanair chief Michael O'Leary said.

Ryanair wants to be Europe's largest airline in terms of passenger numbers by 2010.

Low cost carriersa aim to carry more passengers than all but the biggest three European airlines BA, Air France, and Lufthansa - by 2008.

Ryanair has ordered 100 Boeing 737-800 airplanes. .and has taken out options to buy a further 50,

The airline expects to take delivery of the new aircraft between 2002 and 2010.

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Aha! So the Ryan Air announcement for 50 + B737-300 used aircraft was afterall a ploy to bring Boeing back to the negotiating table to lower prices on the new delivery aircraft.

Question for someone in the know:-

"Will Ryan lease these aircraft and if so are ILFC or GECAS well in bed, or do Ryan propose to pay cash with bank support???"
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BillyFish2,

A comic name for a suitably comic statement.

You've been on a Ryanair 737-200 with far more than 130 seats have you? In a pig's eye you ****!!!

The loadsheets that I sign on a daily basis never have more than 130 pax on board and if there were more than 130 seats on board you can bet that we would fill them at every available opportunity.

There are strictly speaking, a few more seats on board but I'm sure you won't begrudge the Captain, First Officer and the 3 Cabin Attendants a seat each would you?

For the sake of clarity there are two other seats but we call them toilets and I'm afraid that is where statements, such as yours, belong.
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hassel,

I understand 21 of the -200s will be replaced meaning actual fleet expansion of 79 units. So 800 extra pilots is 10 per a/c which is 5 crews per a/c.

Sounds reasonable to me?
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Old 24th Jan 2002, 23:24
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Red-liner, I think what you mean is 'Erm, excuse me BillyFish2, but I think you might be mistaken about those seat numbers old bean'. Not a training captain are you?
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Red-liner. Why so aggressive to Billy?
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Red-Liner heart rate was Red Lining when he made that post
 
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Red Liner.. .Baby you are one mean dude with attitude. You need to chill out man. If you are signing load sheets you have a responsibility to communicate with a little more decorum. Hang lose baby.
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737-200 ...... not an official boeing spec sheet but its interesting .... see the following web add'y ....

<a href="http://www.hamiltonaviation.com/B737200.htm" target="_blank">http://www.hamiltonaviation.com/B737200.htm</a>

115 to 130 is Pax spec
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Actually LAVDUMPER, in a bizarre sort of way, MOL's deal with Boeing actually gives Airbus a stronger negotiating position with Easyjet than before, as it is highly unlikely that Boeing would be able to fulfil substantial orders from both carriers in the required timeframe!

So, not only has MOL pulled off a commercial coup, he has stuck it to Stelios at the same time.

He must be wearing a smile as wide as the Irish Sea.
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BillyFish2 and all others slagging off Redliner:

Every word he said in his post is true and no, he wasn't too aggressive, simply stopping another sad **** slagging off Ryanair for no reason with made up facts.

This order will definitely see FR become the biggest and best in Europe, well done MOL!!
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" every word he said in his post was true "

FlyingIrishman you must be on the same wavelength as Redliner. Perhaps you could explain what . .In a pig's eye you ****!!!!! means.

There is always a reason for sad twats to slag off Ryanair.

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Well at least all those ex Aer Lingus joes will have somewhere to go.

Will the last man to leave please remember to switch off the lights (and leave BC and WW where they belong...alone in the cold and the dark).
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Who's ya daddy Red liner?
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I think we get the idea of Redliner's and Flyingirishman's professionalism and attitude to others from their language.

Do we assume that this attitude runs throughout FR?
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