Air Atlanta Cargo incident Sharjah 07/11/04
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411a, No doubt you have your reasons for commenting on other airlines maintenance,but what do you base your posts.
Air Atlanta are constantly at Cargo Lux for maintenance, whom i know personally to be providers of first rate engineers and service.Base your post's on fact alone and not your own ignorance.
After MK's sad loss, i add my relief to the fact that the Air Atlanta
crew are alive and well,
Air Atlanta are constantly at Cargo Lux for maintenance, whom i know personally to be providers of first rate engineers and service.Base your post's on fact alone and not your own ignorance.
After MK's sad loss, i add my relief to the fact that the Air Atlanta
crew are alive and well,
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For starters, cw6, I worked for 'em for a few years, so I know only too well....
And secondly, you will recall that the UKCAA grounded 'em in 1998 for maintenance 'irregularities'.
Widely reported at the time.
Now of course they might have improved since then (the operative word here is might), but I am reminded of the old saying...a leopard does not change its spots.
Awakevortice,
That has been tried before, and it got nowhere.
You see, I don't call folks names, just comment on items as I see it.
It is called an 'opinion'.
Like it or not...and I guess some don't.
And secondly, you will recall that the UKCAA grounded 'em in 1998 for maintenance 'irregularities'.
Widely reported at the time.
Now of course they might have improved since then (the operative word here is might), but I am reminded of the old saying...a leopard does not change its spots.
Awakevortice,
That has been tried before, and it got nowhere.
You see, I don't call folks names, just comment on items as I see it.
It is called an 'opinion'.
Like it or not...and I guess some don't.
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Maintenance at AA
I am new with AA having come from another 747 operator. I have flown five of Air Atlanta's Classics in the last three weeks and have to say they were all in good shape. Talking to the guys who have been around here for a few years, they agree that maintenance at AA has vastly improved and, in fact, become quite good over the last couple of years. Based on what I have seen, I agree.
I flew this particular aircraft just last week and it is a fine airplane. Trims better than most and it is a shame to lose it.
I flew this particular aircraft just last week and it is a fine airplane. Trims better than most and it is a shame to lose it.
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< ...overran the runway at SHJ after blowing out both nose tires on takeoff....>
Any guesses as to why this would happen?
Main tires I can understand, but both nose tires....?
Sounds fishy to me, presuming for the moment that they were both serviceable to begin with...
Any guesses as to why this would happen?
Main tires I can understand, but both nose tires....?
Sounds fishy to me, presuming for the moment that they were both serviceable to begin with...
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411A:
Please confine your inane "opinions" to the bar .... I'm sure you know where that is!
AAI MX has indeed improved drastically over the past years since you were fired. So button up, and let the accident investigators do their job.
Assumptions that the nose tires were U/S is grossly negligent.
Initial indications are possible FOD'ed engines on T/O roll. Sad to see the over-run wasn't quite as firm as we'd all like to see.
Very happy there were no serious injuries.
Please confine your inane "opinions" to the bar .... I'm sure you know where that is!
AAI MX has indeed improved drastically over the past years since you were fired. So button up, and let the accident investigators do their job.
Assumptions that the nose tires were U/S is grossly negligent.
Initial indications are possible FOD'ed engines on T/O roll. Sad to see the over-run wasn't quite as firm as we'd all like to see.
Very happy there were no serious injuries.
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411A aka "try hard aviator" !
You know as well as I do that maintenance audit in 1998 showed up ziltch and was the result of a report to UKCAA from a disgruntled, ex AAI employee.
Speaking of disgruntled, ex-employees, why don't you get yourself a rreal job 411A and stop pestering professional aviators on this forum ?
You know as well as I do that maintenance audit in 1998 showed up ziltch and was the result of a report to UKCAA from a disgruntled, ex AAI employee.
Speaking of disgruntled, ex-employees, why don't you get yourself a rreal job 411A and stop pestering professional aviators on this forum ?
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411A, we lost a Convair 880M into Hong Kong Harbour on Nov. 5, 1967 due to a nosewheel tyre thread seperation during the take-off roll. This had nothing to do with lack of maintenance but we immediately stopped using re-threads for the nose wheels.
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411A
You seem to have a problem with anything to do with Air Atlanta... Might it be that we operate real aircraft and in great numbers, not a pipe dream or should I say a "Dream fleet of L1011's". Jealous perhaps? or fired by AAI, or not called back?
Your comments are misplaced and frankly starting to get really boring. If you do not have anything constructive to say or anything new (As you seem to repeat yourself on your posts) just lay low and don't post, leave it to others.
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Your comments are misplaced and frankly starting to get really boring. If you do not have anything constructive to say or anything new (As you seem to repeat yourself on your posts) just lay low and don't post, leave it to others.
AD
As 411A says, he makes comments but refrains from attacking individuals. I have no objection to his right to post.
So far as AA goes, I think they are, to put it politely, a cheeky bunch of chancers to offer the rates which attach to their international contract. Until they get that part of their act together I, for one, certainly do not wish their proprieters well.
Since I've been asked twice (and refused) to work for them I guess and hope that they are experiencing difficulty obtaining experienced crews.
So far as AA goes, I think they are, to put it politely, a cheeky bunch of chancers to offer the rates which attach to their international contract. Until they get that part of their act together I, for one, certainly do not wish their proprieters well.
Since I've been asked twice (and refused) to work for them I guess and hope that they are experiencing difficulty obtaining experienced crews.
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Interesting comments Basil.
Could it be that the company now is experiencing the problems that have been building for so many years, such as sub-standard crew salaries and conditions, previously mentioned sub par maintenance...and now the associated difficulties with rapid expansion?
If this sort of incident/accident keeps up, the company may well fall thru the thin ice it has been skating on for so many years.
Folks seem to come and go at AAI, yet the company does not seem to learn from its past mistakes.
It could of course take a turn for the worse, and invite (for Iceland) an ICAO/FAA audit, with perhaps a less than desirable outcome.
Could it be that the company now is experiencing the problems that have been building for so many years, such as sub-standard crew salaries and conditions, previously mentioned sub par maintenance...and now the associated difficulties with rapid expansion?
If this sort of incident/accident keeps up, the company may well fall thru the thin ice it has been skating on for so many years.
Folks seem to come and go at AAI, yet the company does not seem to learn from its past mistakes.
It could of course take a turn for the worse, and invite (for Iceland) an ICAO/FAA audit, with perhaps a less than desirable outcome.
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to all air atlanta staff..bad luck but at least nobody hurt this
time.. to all the detractors, currently AAI flying a very professional operation for our airline with out a sign of any kind of malpratice.. and the team we have are a pleasure to work with
time.. to all the detractors, currently AAI flying a very professional operation for our airline with out a sign of any kind of malpratice.. and the team we have are a pleasure to work with