Major B@lls up at easyland as flights are cancelled
The ANO is not defunct, the CAA uses JAR-OPS1 as a measure to ascertain whether or not to grant an AOC under the terms of Article 6 of the current ANO.( see page 1 of the AOC) You will need to obtain a copy of the current AOC to ascertain precisely which requirements of JAR-OPS1 that Easy' have to comply with.(These have in the past been contained in the Second Schedule to an AOC and referred to in General Condition A6) Apologies for all the "currents" but the up-to-date versions must be used!
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In the year 2004 one would have thought that carrying the actual document on board would be irrelevant, as opposed to actually having to be insured. Furthermore, there are many countries where the requirement is to be insured, and not to have to carry the certificate.
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BOAC you say:
Engineering at LHR dont check the docs on a regular basis... I check the docs on 90% of aircraft during the security checks, and have found 10 cetificates up to 7 months out of date on BA aircraft. Doh!
Fax machines still have their uses
Out of interest (and not a problem in BA since JAA have accepted that engineering are responsible for these documents and the Captain's responsibilty is thereby removed). . . .
Fax machines still have their uses
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I'm not in the industry so please forgive me if I'm being dumb or ignorant, but there does seem some sense in requiring insurance docs to be carried. If [Obscure]Air turns up from [Obscure]Land, you've got something tangible that you can then check up on if you wish. Without it you've only got a promise from [Obscure]Air and a hope that [Obscure]CAA is strong on regulation.
As I say, just an outsider's observation/question.
As I say, just an outsider's observation/question.
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umm did i hear right once?
that those sort of documents should not be carried in the actual a/c just incase (touch wood) the aircraft would go down and everything was destroyed due to fire etc..
maybe it was just something i heard wrong
that those sort of documents should not be carried in the actual a/c just incase (touch wood) the aircraft would go down and everything was destroyed due to fire etc..
maybe it was just something i heard wrong
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and have found 10 certificates up to 7 months out of date on BA aircraft
I have been reliably informed (by the 'clever ones') that the BA Captain's responsibility is discharged by engineering in this area, as is the absolving of the Captain (in BA) from ensuring there are sufficient life-jackets on board for the flight across the Atlantic.
It is what we know as 'SEP' (Someone Else's Problem)
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Is it really big problem just to fax insurance certificate from HDQ to the nearest fax machine around particular aircraft?
Have no idea what are UK CAA regulations on this matter, but under JAR OPS 1.125 the fax copy of certificate is fine...
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JAR–OPS 1.125 Documents to be carried
....
(6) [The original or a copy of the] Third
party liability Insurance Certificate(s).
.......
Appendix 1 to JAR-OPS 1.125
Documents to be carried
See JAR-OPS 1.125
In case of loss or theft of documents specified in
JAR-OPS 1.125, the operation is allowed to continue
until the flight reaches the base or a place where a
replacement document can be provided.
Have no idea what are UK CAA regulations on this matter, but under JAR OPS 1.125 the fax copy of certificate is fine...
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JAR–OPS 1.125 Documents to be carried
....
(6) [The original or a copy of the] Third
party liability Insurance Certificate(s).
.......
Appendix 1 to JAR-OPS 1.125
Documents to be carried
See JAR-OPS 1.125
In case of loss or theft of documents specified in
JAR-OPS 1.125, the operation is allowed to continue
until the flight reaches the base or a place where a
replacement document can be provided.
