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Old 10th Feb 2004, 15:50
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Passenger plane down in Sharjah UAE?

Just heard on BBC radio...breaking news...no further details
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They're picking up from Reuters. This ran at 0842 zulu.


Plane crashes near UAE airport - police

SHARJAH, United Arab Emirates, Feb 10 (Reuters) - A plane crashed near Sharjah airport in the Gulf state of the United Arab Emirates, police and witnesse said.
It was not immediately clear how many passenger were on board the plane or which airline it belonged to. The UAE's news agency WAM said the plane was a Kish Airlines flight from Iran while other sources said it was a Russian cargo plane.

Edited to add they've just flashed that there were 60 pax on board. Source is a government official.

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Plane crashes in UAE airport - police

SHARJAH, United Arab Emirates, Feb 10 (Reuters) - An Iranian Kish Airlines plane with at least 60 passengers on board crashed on Tuesday during take-off from Sharjah airport in the Gulf state of the United Arab Emirates, UAE officials said.
Witnesses said ambulances were rushing to and from the scene but it was not immediately how many passengers were killed.
"The plane crashed near the tarmac. Police have sealed off the area to allow rescue operations," said one witness.
Earlier, security sources had said the plane was a Russian cargo jet with 35 passengers on board. The type of plane was not clear.
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Crash?? Sharjah,UAE

has any one got more info about the aircraft crash in sharjah, possible registration ETNCA????(aircraft maybe a leased one)
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The BBC now has it. They mention survivors.
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Heard reports that the aircraft is a Fokker 50 belonging to Kish Air.
All flights are diverting to Dubai at this time...

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Iranian airliner crashes in UAE
Plane with about 60 aboard crashes shortly after takeoff
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Updated: 4:18 a.m. ET Feb. 10, 2004
SHARJAH, United Arab Emirates - An Iranian airliner with about 60 people aboard crashed Tuesday shortly after taking off from Sharjah airport in the United Arab Emirates, according to local television reports that showed flaming wreckage and rescue helicopters landing near the scene.
There was word of survivors aboard the Kish Air plane, according to Sharjah television, which reported that 49 passengers plus a child were on board. The number of crew wasn't clear.
Mehdi Mehranpour, deputy managing director of Iran's national carrier, Iran Air, said the plane belonged to Kish Air, a separate Iranian company. Kish Air officials could not immediately be reached.
Speaking to The Associated Press in the Iranian capital of Tehran, Mehranpour said the airliner was a Fokker 50, which can carry about 60 people, and that it had crashed in a populated area near Sharjah airport.
The Sharjah television report had said the crash area was uninhabited area.
In the television footage, flames were visible from the front of the plane, which appeared not to be intact. The plane's tail section could be seen and no fire were seen in that area on the television footage. Other indiscernible debris could be seen smoking on the ground.
Iran has a history of air accidents, often blamed on badly maintained planes. In June, an Iranian military C-130 transport plane crashed outside Tehran, killing all seven people on board. In February, a Russian-made Ilyushin-76 crashed in southeastern Iran, killing all 275 aboard.
In Belarus in September, a Tupolev-154 belonging to Kish Air on a Tehran-Minsk-Copenhagen went off course while making its landing approach at the Minsk-2 airport, striking trees which caused serious damage to the plane's wings. None of the 40 people aboard were hurt.
In 1995, an Iranian flight attendant hijacked a Kish Air Boeing 707 to Israel during a flight from Tehran. The plane was returned to Tehran with 174 passengers and crew.
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That could be EP-LCA - A Fokker 50 with Kish Air.

However, I stress that this is a guess based on the possible registration above.
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Well from the apron or following the Kish Air F-50's they look pretty sharp as far as you could judge on the outside i'd say they're pretty well maintained. then again it doesn't say that much ofcourse.

All the strength to the family of the crew and pax in the coming period
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went down outside the perimeter fence.
apparantly at least 3 survivors.
local media bases its reports on BBC sources
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Flight number was IRK7176 to Gheshm as amazingly the Sharjah Airport Departures board shows the flight status as "crashed"!

The flight was suppose to departure at 06:00...but was delayed.
http://www.shj-airport.gov.ae/cgi-bin/fids/fids?66

P.S. The link takes a while to load
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Sky news is showing an intact tail fin section of a Fokker 50 or maybe an F-27: reg is EP-LCA

later: it's an F-50

http://airliners.net/open.file?id=23...tic=yes&size=M

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Too many conflicting reports flying around everywhere to be sure of what has actually happened yet. Flight was inbound to SHJ and crashed outside the airfield area. Some reports saying close to a supermarket in a residential area.

Whatever the facts it's a tragedy and thoughts go to family and friends of those affected. I certainly hope the services were up to the task.

Having flown Kish Air, all be it 5 or so years ago, I am only surprised this had not happened sooner. It had to be one of the scariest flights ever with old eqipment that was falling apart. Let us hope that some good comes of this and more stringent measures are put into place in all countries on certifying the airworthiness of aircraft.
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Yes it is the Fokker - 50. u can see it on the tail section which is undamaged. apparently the flight was from Qeshm an Iranian island, a free zone. so the strict iranian rules do not apply here. crashed on approach between the emirates of Sharjah and Ajman. was scheduled to land at sharjah. unconfirmed reports speak of 2 survivors. the aircraft crashed in an industrial area. it is a populated area, but fortunately no casualities on ground.reports say the aircraft crashed close to a road. the 2 survivors are now in sharjah Al Qasimi Hospital. emergency services responded quickly and are still there. bodies are being recovered.
the flight was apparently a visa change flight. for details refer the following links

http://www.gulf-news.com/Articles/ne...ticleID=108871
http://www.gulf-news.com/Articles/ne...ticleID=108872
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Plane crashes in UAE
Tue 10 February, 2004 09:58

SHARJAH, United Arab Emirates (Reuters) - An Iranian Kish Airline plane carrying 40 passengers, including a child, has crashed near Sharjah airport in the Gulf state of the United Arab Emirates.

Witnesses said at least 25 people were killed, but UAE's official news agency WAM said there were survivors and a doctor at a Sharjah hospital said they had received one body and three injured passengers.

The agency said the plane crashed as it was landing from Sharjah at 11.00 a.m. (7 a.m. British time). It fell between Sharjah and the neighbouring emirate of Ajman. Earlier, security sources said the plane had crashed during take off.

In Iran, an official from the semi-private Kish Airline said the plane was a Dutch-made Fokker-50, a twin-engined turboprop plane which can carry 50 passengers and six crew.

Witnesses said only flaming bits and pieces remained of the plane, adding rescue teams were searching the site.

"Only a bit of the tail remained. It doesn't look like many people survived," one witness said.

"The plane crashed near the tarmac. Police have sealed off the area to allow rescue operations," she added.

Kish Airline runs domestic and some short-haul international routes to and from Iran's Kish Island in the Gulf.

Kish Island is a designated free trade zone and Iran is trying to promote it as a tourist destination. The UAE-Kish route is popular with immigrant workers in the UAE who need to renew their residence papers/work permits.

Iranian airlines have been plagued by air crashes in recent years which aviation experts blame on its ageing and out-dated fleet of planes. U.S. sanctions mean Iranian companies have difficulty obtaining spare parts for their aircraft.

A Russian built Ilyushin-76M/MD military transport aircraft crashed in southern Iran last February killing all 276 military personnel aboard.

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"Iran has a history of air accidents, often blamed on badly maintained planes"
It´s all so easy to blame it on the poor countries or cheap airlines bad maintenance from the very first moment after an accident.
Don´t forget the worst crash of an Iran airplane was caused by an U.S. rocket fired from a warship !
Maybe the wrong moment to be angry about the press, should better express my thoughts with the ones hurt or killed
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>>It´s all so easy to blame it on the poor countries or cheap airlines bad maintenance from the very first moment after an accident.<<

You're right, the possibility of pilot error must be considered, particularly with third world airlines.
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Should one speculate on a tenuous link between this tragedy, and the Luxair F50 which crashed at around the same phase on finals ???
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One should not speculate at all at this early stage!

Condolencies to all.
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My sympathies and prayers with the families of those who passed away and those who are battling for their lives.

Just a small correction Ace, I went to the site and THIS is what is says
"10-Feb 08:30 Kish island Kish air IRK 7171 Cxld "

Cxld - I presume stands for cancelled

As is the wont, bad press spews forth :
Read what an Indian site Sify.com had to post
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Tuesday, 10 February , 2004, 21:55

Sharjah: Indian expatriate workers, who travel in low priced flights like Kish Air to change visas, say the short journey of 40 minutes to Kish is "tedious and scary".
Subash Menon, an Indian resident who travelled to Kish recently for exit and re-entry into UAE said his experience on board was really "scary".
Menon, who had gone to Sharjah airport yesterday morning to change visa, said "I took the boarding pass at 0630 hrs (local time) and the flight was scheduled to leave for Kish at 0800 hrs from Sharjah airport, but it did not take off until around 0900 hrs," he said.
"Finally, when I went to the counter and asked about the delay, no one was able to explain the delay. Neither did they have any ideas about the expected time of departure," he was quoted by the Sharjah-based The Gulf Today newspaper as saying.
"Finally, we took off for Kish by around 1030 hrs," Menon said.
The service on board was "horrible," he added Kish Air provides a free one-night stay for all passengers at the Kish Island's major hotel, Farabi Hotel.

Describing the accommodation, Ubaid Ahmed, a Pakistan national working in Dubai, said " The accommodation is dormitory style.
Four to five people share one room." Mr Menon added that the hotel charges Dhs 30 daily, with free breakfast.
"The hotel takes its share out of the Dhs 1,000 we had to deposit with Kish Air before landing on the island," he added.
"Low income expatriates and job hunters mainly travel to Kish to change their visas," said Arif Asif, an official with a manpower consulting firm in Sharjah.
"Many of these people are desperate for jobs and are willing to work for anything you offer," said Asif.
Kish Air runs domestic and some short-haul international routes to and from Iran's Kish Island in the Gulf. The Kish Island is a designated free trade zone and Iran is trying to promote it as a tourist destination. "Kish is a favorite destination for visa changes because tickets are cheap and foreigners do not need visas to visit the island," said an official with a travel agency in Sharjah.
Such flights are normally used by Asian workers, including Indians, Pakistanis and Filipinos, who make up the bulk of UAE's expatriate work force.
He added that there are hundreds who switch jobs in the UAE but have to fly out to re-enter the country on new work visas.
"There are still others who arrive in the UAE on visit visas and get jobs. But they again have to make this trip to Kish to return on a work visa. This rule applies to all the emirates," he said.
He added that it would be much easier if the UAE authorities allowed the visa change in the country itself for a fee adding "we can avoid accidents like this." Kish Air has three daily flights from Sharjah to Kish.
It runs Fokker-50 turbo-prop planes for the 40-minute trip to the island.
Mohammed Abdullah, who works with a travel agency in Sharjah, said these visa-change flights are basically air ferry services.
Many are "no-stop" or "U-turn" flights.
He said there are visa change flights from Sharjah airport to Muscat, which just touch the runway and then takes off.
This flight costs about Dhs190 while the fare to Kish is Dhs260 to 280 besides accommodation charges.
"People do fly to other destination such as Doha and Bahrain to change visas," he said.
"It's costly too. A round-trip from Sharjah to Bahrain puts you back by Dhs 330. Sharjah - Doha fares are Dhs 400," he added.
With three daily flights, Kish Air ferries up to 5,400 people to Kish for visa changes every month.
Most of the people at Sharjah airport told The Gulf Today that Kish Air officials did not cooperate with them when inquires were made about the accident.
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Condolences to the bereaved families

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More details also on the pax

Source : Sify.com

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UAE plane crash:12 Indians among 44 dead


Tuesday, 10 February , 2004, 15:01

Sharjah: Forty-four people died and two survived when an Iranian plane crashed and burst into flames Tuesday narrowly missing a crowded residential area in the United Arab Emirates, police said.
"All casualties are from the plane," operated by Kish Airlines, said Colonel Saleh Ali al-Mutawa, chief of police in the southern Gulf emirate of Sharjah.

The dead comprised 19 Iranians, 12 Indians, four Egyptians, two Filipinos, two Algerians, one Bangladeshi, one Chinese, one Nigerian, one Syrian and one other person.

The survivors were two males, both in critical condition, police said. Sharjah's state-run television reported that one of the males was a "miracle" child. Four women and two children were among the dead, police said.

About 20 bodies, some wrapped in blankets and others charred inside transparent plastic bags lay on the ground near the wreckage waiting to be loaded onto a Dubai civil defense vehicle, alongside another estimated 20 bodies already on the truck.

The fuselage, broken into several parts, smouldered in the background where emergency workers sifted through the wreckage of the Dutch-built Fokker 50 turboprop.

The television said there were two explosions after the plane hit the ground. It had earlier shown pictures of several bodies in dramatic footage of the burning aircraft.

One crumpled body lay several yards from the wreck, another broken among smashed seats. Rescue workers wearing surgical masks over their mouths battled through thick black smoke as firemen doused the wreckage with water hoses.

Only the blue tail section of the white aircraft, registration EP-LCA, bearing the company logo of a stylised red bird against a yellow sun, rose above the wreckage.

"The plane was coming in to land" at about 11:40 (0740 GMT), a security official at Sharjah international airport told AFP.

The flight had come from Iran's Gulf island of Kish when it went down in an open area sandwiched between the villas of a crowded residential zone about four kilometres from the airport.

In Teheran, an official Iranian statement said there were 39 passengers, including 12 Iranians and 27 of other nationalities, and six crew aboard the Fokker as it attempted an emergency landing.

"This morning a Fokker 50 aircraft of Kish Air left the airport of Kish for Sharjah. Near the airport (of Sharjah) it asked to make an emergency landing, veered to the left and crashed," the Iranian civil aviation authority statement said, quoted by the student news agency ISNA.

But Sharjah airport authority chief Ghanem al-Hajiri said the plane had not radioed any distress signal.

"Everthing was normal up to the time of the crash," he told reporters. "The UAE civil aviation authority is investigating the incident now and has taken over the site," which was cordoned off.

Kish Airlines operates daily flights across the Gulf and is used particularly by Iranian tourists and Asian workers who have to leave the Emirates briefly to obtain new visas.

The company, according to its website operates four Fokker 50s, and four of the larger three-jet Tupolev 154Ms of Soviet origin.

On September 6, one of the airline's Tupolevs crashed after hitting a tree when it tried to land in heavy fog at Minsk, Belarus, but none of the nearly 40 people aboard were injured, according to airport authorities at the time.

Kish, which contains a duty-free zone and is considered more liberal than the rest of Iran, lies 18 kilometres off the southern Iranian coast and 200 kilometres from Dubai.

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Just a small correction Ace, I went to the site and THIS is what is says
10-Feb
06:00
Gheshm
Kish air
IRK 7176
Crashed
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