"My" air-rager convicted!!
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"My" air-rager convicted!!
Just have to share this with you lot!
The air rager who attacked and beat me up over a year ago was finally processed by the Dutch courts.
All his claims were declared invalid by the judge. The fact that I put him in handcuffs was deemed justified, as was the fact that he was left thus for the rest of the 9 hour flight, without food nor drink.
He was also convicted to pay a modest sum of money, which according to the company lawyer I will never see since he claims to be poor.
(rich enough money to afford a flight to the Carribean every year though.....)
Don't know all the details yet but I am so [b)hugely[/b] pleased with this outcome!!
Justice has been done and standing up to this idiot was not in vain.
I'm sitting here with a glass of champagne, feeling extremely chuffed!
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The air rager who attacked and beat me up over a year ago was finally processed by the Dutch courts.
All his claims were declared invalid by the judge. The fact that I put him in handcuffs was deemed justified, as was the fact that he was left thus for the rest of the 9 hour flight, without food nor drink.
He was also convicted to pay a modest sum of money, which according to the company lawyer I will never see since he claims to be poor.
(rich enough money to afford a flight to the Carribean every year though.....)
Don't know all the details yet but I am so [b)hugely[/b] pleased with this outcome!!
Justice has been done and standing up to this idiot was not in vain.
I'm sitting here with a glass of champagne, feeling extremely chuffed!
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Good news, Flaps - the (receiving of) money isn't really an important issue for you, as much as the GUILTY verdict and the money he has had to spend on legal fees.
Incidentally, were the handcuffs part of the aircraft equipment, or one of the crew's "personal accessories"? (Visions of black, leather-clad, high-heeled lady, whip in hand, telling handcuffed pax, "And if you STILL want to misbehave, this will be the next step!"
Incidentally, were the handcuffs part of the aircraft equipment, or one of the crew's "personal accessories"? (Visions of black, leather-clad, high-heeled lady, whip in hand, telling handcuffed pax, "And if you STILL want to misbehave, this will be the next step!"
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Well now lads I think F40 was orignally on my team with pjdj for the gatbash so I'll have to congratulate my team member first. (Better get the early flight then!)
Well done f40! Mind you what I'd like to know how did you happen to have a pair of handcuffs with you in your posession??
Well done f40! Mind you what I'd like to know how did you happen to have a pair of handcuffs with you in your posession??
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Flaps,
I'm afraid I can't get to the GatBash, but consider yourself hugged I'll be at the Royal Navy Association club tonight and I'll raise a glass for you.
Did he get any "time" in addition to the "compensation" he is supposed to pay? - I hope so.
As for the 'cuffs, Yes, I wondered about that too - perhaps I'll find out when the photos appear on the site after the GatBash
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What goes around . . .
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I'm afraid I can't get to the GatBash, but consider yourself hugged I'll be at the Royal Navy Association club tonight and I'll raise a glass for you.
Did he get any "time" in addition to the "compensation" he is supposed to pay? - I hope so.
As for the 'cuffs, Yes, I wondered about that too - perhaps I'll find out when the photos appear on the site after the GatBash
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What goes around . . .
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Flaps,
Congratulations. Job well done, and now justice has been done. IŽll raise a glass for you tonight, in the hotel bar.
In my outfit, we have plastic handcuffs, as standard equipment on the aircraft. Not issued to crewmembers, but always there when needed.
Congratulations. Job well done, and now justice has been done. IŽll raise a glass for you tonight, in the hotel bar.
In my outfit, we have plastic handcuffs, as standard equipment on the aircraft. Not issued to crewmembers, but always there when needed.
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Dear people,
The fact that you lot actually understand what it feels like to be stuck with an air rager at level 400 over the Atlantic, makes your toasts, expressions of support and future cuddles warm the heart that little bit extra!
Kaptin M, metal handcuffs + some sets of heavy duty tie-wraps are standard equipment in all the cockpits on our fleet, and their use is always SCD.
Sorry to upset your "vision" mate.
The fact that you lot actually understand what it feels like to be stuck with an air rager at level 400 over the Atlantic, makes your toasts, expressions of support and future cuddles warm the heart that little bit extra!
Kaptin M, metal handcuffs + some sets of heavy duty tie-wraps are standard equipment in all the cockpits on our fleet, and their use is always SCD.
Sorry to upset your "vision" mate.
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Really wonderful news, Flaps. Even if you don't see the money, just think how having a conviction recorded against him will affect his life.
All those forms for jobs, bank accounts, insurance etc etc that ask if you've ever held a conviction. Hopefully it will cause the b@stard no end of aggravation!
Hope you get the money though...
All those forms for jobs, bank accounts, insurance etc etc that ask if you've ever held a conviction. Hopefully it will cause the b@stard no end of aggravation!
Hope you get the money though...
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Well done Flaps.
Air rage is unacceptable and your tenacity in seeing the incident throught to conviction is the sort of positive action that will convince miscreants to think twice before misbehaving.
I wish I could be the Gatbash to buy you a drink for helping to make the world a safer place.
Air rage is unacceptable and your tenacity in seeing the incident throught to conviction is the sort of positive action that will convince miscreants to think twice before misbehaving.
I wish I could be the Gatbash to buy you a drink for helping to make the world a safer place.
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And just one more toast to you, FLAPS for following through on this one. My experience with the comparatively few cases about which we (the cockpit crew) have been informed (and I know that there are times when we don't hear about it) has been that the Airline generally tries to dissuade the crew from taking any follow-up action..."Better to have a crew member off with a black eye for a week, than to lose a customer for life!"
Was it the union who helped you hang in? Your own dogged single-mindedness? Or the other crew members?
[Now - back to visions of dominating, whip-wielding, leather strapped females. (Sad but true, we guys sometimes...sometimes....like to let the weaker sex feel important!)]
Was it the union who helped you hang in? Your own dogged single-mindedness? Or the other crew members?
[Now - back to visions of dominating, whip-wielding, leather strapped females. (Sad but true, we guys sometimes...sometimes....like to let the weaker sex feel important!)]