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Tibbsy 14th September 2024 03:14

What’s going on at LifeFlight in Queensland?
 
Reports of experienced people walking out the door, struggling to fill rosters, industrial disputes brewing over expired EBAs, new EBA unilaterally drafted by the company being forcefully rejected by the pilots.

gulliBell 14th September 2024 07:09

Everything is fine there, the tin rattlers just shake the tree and ample pilots fall out to fill any vacancies.

Manual Governor 14th September 2024 08:30

Nothing to see here. Everything is fine.

$586.1m over the next ten years on contracts no one else could tender for? Don’t ask.

Ex- GG, Premiers on the board? Don’t ask.

I thought the massive injection of cash was meant to meet all the costs of the contracts in QLD, but they’re still running gala balls, charity drives etc to raise more funds to build more facilities than all the other operators combined could only dream of having? So what is the half billion for? A donation? Don’t ask.



All the above happens, and to borrow a story from Aussie comedian Carl Barron- it’s like talking to someone and a bit of spit comes out your mouth and lands on their arm….everyone saw it, you both know it happened, but no one says anything. Everyone has seen it happen, but nothing is ever said.

As long as this keeps happening and no one talks about it, smaller operators like us won’t ever get a look in to the big leagues and the contracts in the sunny parts of the country. But as stated, just rattle the tin and the problems will go away. Or if the Company digs in the heels and refuses to offer a decent deal to their Pilots, they will ultimately vote with their feet and the positions will be filled with the unskilled, inexperienced and the blindly obedient. That’ll bring problems of its own.

Tibbsy 15th September 2024 02:08


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 11734183)
Everything is fine there, the tin rattlers just shake the tree and ample pilots fall out to fill any vacancies.

i think that’s the problem isn’t it? The experienced and qualified pilot tree isn’t producing fruit any more.

Tibbsy 15th September 2024 02:12


Originally Posted by Manual Governor (Post 11734209)
Or if the Company digs in the heels and refuses to offer a decent deal to their Pilots, they will ultimately vote with their feet and the positions will be filled with the unskilled, inexperienced and the blindly obedient. That’ll bring problems of its own.

That’s exactly what I’m hearing.


Oogle 15th September 2024 03:39

Looks like Tibbsy has an axe to grind with LF…

Also Manual Gov for his first post….

QG Air (fully Govt funded) is the one offline due to pilot shortages.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other...id=socialshare

Tibbsy 15th September 2024 05:39


Originally Posted by Oogle (Post 11734645)
Looks like Tibbsy has an axe to grind with LF…

Also Manual Gov for his first post….

QG Air (fully Govt funded) is the one offline due to pilot shortages.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other...id=socialshare

lol, I don’t think so Oogle, been a long time since I worked in Queensland so no personal axe to grind. But I do wonder about the tin-rattling and constant appeals for community support when they’re providing fully funded Queensland Government services.

According to my AFAP mate I just spoke to LifeFlight has spent a LOT of money on legal and industrial representation fighting the pilots and the AFAP over the last two years. I’d be curious to know what % of donated funds are being spent on that.

Surprised to hear of QG Air’s shortages. Used to be very a much an employer of choice. What changed?

That lights normal! 15th September 2024 05:53



Surprised to hear of QG Air’s shortages. Used to be very a much an employer of choice. What changed?
​​​​​​​Police took over. Is what I hear.

Squeaks 15th September 2024 06:50


Originally Posted by Oogle (Post 11734645)
Looks like Tibbsy has an axe to grind with LF…

Also Manual Gov for his first post….

QG Air (fully Govt funded) is the one offline due to pilot shortages.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other...id=socialshare

Quite correct: LifeFlight is on standby for QG Air at Archerfield for September plus others, including a major Fixed Wing operator.

gulliBell 15th September 2024 11:25


Originally Posted by Oogle (Post 11734645)
QG Air (fully Govt funded) is the one offline due to pilot shortages.

That's because their minimum experience requirements are ridiculous. 500 night PIC and 100 NVIS are mandatory so they are basically saying we only want ex-Army guys.

gulliBell 15th September 2024 11:53


Originally Posted by Tibbsy (Post 11734625)
...The experienced and qualified pilot tree isn’t producing fruit any more.

Not so. 6000+ hours M/E experience, M/E IR, NVIS qualified pilots aren't even making the cut for interview for Lifeflight co-pilot positions.

MagsOffTap 15th September 2024 11:55

Ridiculous?

I’d say appropriate to the level of risk in conducting medical transport operations in complex operating environments.

gulliBell 15th September 2024 12:06


Originally Posted by MagsOffTap (Post 11734849)
I’d say appropriate to the level of risk in conducting medical transport operations in complex operating environments.

OK. So let them park the bus due no crew and get Lifeflight to cover the roster using pilots with much less than 500 night PIC.

Evil Twin 16th September 2024 09:29


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 11734827)
That's because their minimum experience requirements are ridiculous. 500 night PIC and 100 NVIS are mandatory so they are basically saying we only want ex-Army guys.

Don't forget ATPL for a single pilot job

gulliBell 16th September 2024 10:49


Originally Posted by Evil Twin (Post 11735320)
Don't forget ATPL for a single pilot job

Actually just a CPL-H covers you to fly an AW139 single pilot if you have more than 750 hours flight time as a pilot of a rotorcraft (CASR 61.570 refers).
But they want you to have an ATPL, which is a lower bar to jump than 500 night PIC.

Turkeyslapper 16th September 2024 12:07

Some of you talk about how ‘they’ require ridiculous minimums. Have you considered that these maybe client requirements?

Personally, I don’t t think 100 hours on Nvis is too much to ask … single pilot, 139 on a dark, crappy night can be ….erm, rather hard work and having a solid Nvis (and IFR, NVFR) background helps. It’s also no longer the sole domain of ex army types either… NVIS has been used for what, a decade or more now? Plenty of people from all backgrounds with decent time now.

gulliBell 16th September 2024 13:04


Originally Posted by Turkeyslapper (Post 11735409)
...NVIS has been used for what, a decade or more now? Plenty of people from all backgrounds with decent time now.

We had them at Oakey in 1986.

megan 16th September 2024 15:03


Actually just a CPL-H covers you to fly an AW139 single pilot
That's a change gulli, they made us get ATPL's at some stage during the 212, 76 era.

Turkeyslapper 16th September 2024 20:51


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 11735435)
We had them at Oakey in 1986.

yep, aware of that. I’m referring to the civil industry (which was slow on the uptake) and the fact that there are plenty of very experienced goggle pilots around without Army backgrounds.

Evil Twin 16th September 2024 21:25


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 11735362)
Actually just a CPL-H covers you to fly an AW139 single pilot if you have more than 750 hours flight time as a pilot of a rotorcraft (CASR 61.570 refers).
But they want you to have an ATPL, which is a lower bar to jump than 500 night PIC.

I know, I currently fly an AW139 single pilot in an EMS role with a CPL(H).


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