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U.K. Class 1 medical
Appologies if this has been asked before.
Is working as a salaried single pilot for a private helicopter owner non CAT, classed as “Commercial Operations” with respect to requirements of a class one medical in the U.K.? |
I guess if the pilot is being renumerated for those sevices with money or other perks then yes.
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Depending on what the ownership structure and how your contract is written then no, it does not have to be CAT and can be flown without a Class 1
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My understanding is that to receive remuneration as a pilot (ie ‘a salaried single pilot’) then you require at least a CPL(H). A CPL requires a Class 1 medical. This includes NCO/NCC flying, as well as CAT.
A loophole seems to exist where someone is employed as, say, an Estate Manager or Gardener but with ‘additional duties’. (ie chauffeuring or flying). This could be done on a PPL. However, I’m not sure of the legality of that situation (or if it has ever been tested in the law courts). |
Basically you need a class 1 if you are receiving any sort of renumeration or benefit from flying
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Originally Posted by Hughes500
(Post 11668458)
Basically you need a class 1 if you are receiving any sort of renumeration or benefit from flying
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Yes, I keep my class 1 going just to cover any eventualities
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So, to ferry a privately owned aircraft? Whilst employed by the management company with the NCC/145 approval?
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You only need a Class 2 for flight instruction
And if you are employed as a pilot for someone, ie their private pilot in an aircraft they own, a Class 1 medical is not required. In fact you may not even need a CPL.
Originally Posted by Hughes500
(Post 11668458)
Basically you need a class 1 if you are receiving any sort of renumeration or benefit from flying
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I realise that if you are instructing you only need a class 2 and pplh but that wasnt in the question
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Originally Posted by hargreaves99
(Post 11668739)
You only need a Class 2 for flight instruction
And if you are employed as a pilot for someone, ie their private pilot in an aircraft they own, a Class 1 medical is not required. In fact you may not even need a CPL. |
no, but you said this
"Basically you need a class 1 if you are receiving any sort of renumeration or benefit from flying" which is not true, as you get paid for flight instruction, but you do not need a class 1 medical.
Originally Posted by Hughes500
(Post 11668948)
I realise that if you are instructing you only need a class 2 and pplh but that wasnt in the question
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Therefore do those who fly for remuneration in the U.K. with only FAA licence and medical breach the rules when they do?
There is certainly one airframe in ‘God’s county’ on M reg with an FAA licence holder flying alternating with a PPL holder. Also does a medical limitation or restriction limit what can be done? Many fly offshore multi crew with a multi crew only limitation for CAT but what about private NCO/NCC? |
In the uk, outside of "proper" AOC work with G-registered aircraft...there is lots of dodgy flying going on with N-reg, M-reg, 2-reg aircraft using non-uk licences/medicals
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Originally Posted by 212man
(Post 11668983)
But if you do have a CPL, you need a Class 1
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Originally Posted by hargreaves99
(Post 11668739)
You only need a Class 2 for flight instruction
And if you are employed as a pilot for someone, ie their private pilot in an aircraft they own, a Class 1 medical is not required. In fact you may not even need a CPL. And if you receive remuneration for flying anything other than PPL instruction you need a CPL and a class 1 medical. The only difference if you are flying for a private person on their aircraft is that you operate under Part NCO or NCC and not CAT. References above |
So... if someone buys a g-reg aircraft (eg AS350), and hires a CPL holder to fly him around the UK to his business meetings etc, that CPL holder needs a Class 1 medical AND it must all be operated under Part NCO/NCC
Is that correct? |
Originally Posted by hargreaves99
(Post 11670404)
So... if someone buys a g-reg aircraft (eg AS350), and hires a CPL holder to fly him around the UK to his business meetings etc, that CPL holder needs a Class 1 medical AND it must all be operated under Part NCO/NCC
Is that correct? |
Originally Posted by gipsymagpie
(Post 11670478)
Part NCO as a Squirrel is an "Other than Complex" helicopter but yes.
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