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rrekn 7th April 2022 06:34

Catching a Rocket with an S-92
 
Anyone got more details on this one? Looks like a Bristow machine

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/r...ir-185687.html

ShyTorque 7th April 2022 07:51

Trying to capture a rapidly descending, low forward speed parachute with a helicopter isn’t a job I’d like to be doing for a living.

No doubt the crew have attended Monsieur Vichard’s course…. :cool:

Bravo73 7th April 2022 09:07


Originally Posted by rrekn (Post 11211771)
Looks like a Bristow machine

It could well be an ex-Bristow leased aircraft.

skadi 7th April 2022 09:17


Originally Posted by ShyTorque (Post 11211793)
Trying to capture a rapidly descending, low forward speed parachute with a helicopter isn’t a job I’d like to be doing for a living.

No doubt the crew have attended Monsieur Vichard’s course…. :cool:

They tested the procedure with smaller helicopter:


skadi

JohnDixson 7th April 2022 12:28

Shy, you are on point. Not long after I was hired on at Sikorsky in 1966, the USAF started the Mid Air Retrieval System project to retrieve Firebee Drones with their photos. I recall talking to Johnny Parker, one of the two test pilots doing the initial program out west and he told about an early instance where they had caught the parachute in that hook arrangement out the hack of the CH-3C, but then the load started oscillating and his words were-John, I knew we were in trouble when I could see our load out the front windshield.

Absolutely no connection with what they were about, ( I think ) but that test group from Sikorsky spent a long time out west ( Yuma?? ) and were afterward semi-infamous as the divorce rate among that bunch afterwards was 50%.

SASless 7th April 2022 12:35

Old Trick....new Dog!

White Sands Missile Test Range used Sikorsky CH-37 Mojave Helicopters to retrieve ICBM Nose Cones using the Mid-Air Retrieval Method and later the US Navy and Air Force retrieved Firebee Reece Drones during Vietnam War days using SH-3 Sea Kings and H-3 and CH-53 Jolly Greens.

JohnDixson 7th April 2022 14:46

MARS
 
There used to be a good online close-up video of the USAF doing a catch with their CH-3 but cannot find it anymore. It included the whole sequence wherein after the catch, the drone parachute was disconnected etc They fielded a unit and deployed to SE Asia and were successful doing that mission operationally.with some hundreds of catches as I recall being told.

CopterDoctor 7th April 2022 17:01

Yeah the machine is an ex Bristow ,now owned by Rocketlab in NZ , planning to catch the rocket on re-entry and sling it to land to reduce damage to the rocket and allow it to be re-used again quicker and cheaper. I wish them luck but am a bit worried about the stress of the sudden increase in weight on the rotor and airframe.

revit 7th April 2022 17:05

PDG Mid Air Recovery - 2017
 

Devil 49 7th April 2022 18:17

At my PHI initial training in 1983 and subsequently, I met pilots who had done this b
 
At my PHI initial training in 1983 and subsequently, I met pilots who had done this before for PHI.

RVDT 7th April 2022 19:51

No doubt it is all "doable".


a customized Sikorsky S-92 twin-engine helicopter
At 173 miles offshore as quoted I guess that means a big fuel tank? Out and back, time on station, reserves etc. Or maybe the standard legs are enough as they are pretty long? GE engines after all are pretty frugal.

Can't help thinking it might feel a bit lonely out there at that distance! Although I think they will still have some sort of vessel out there in case they "miss" and still recover the booster.

Certainly be "interesting".

wrench1 7th April 2022 21:25


Originally Posted by Devil 49 (Post 11212088)
At my PHI initial training in 1983 and subsequently, I met pilots who had done this before for PHI.

FYI: PHI did their first one off the coast of Virginia in the mid-1960s for NASA which then continued for several years thereafter. I had started in 1982 and there were a number of photos of those missions in a cabinet in the fixed wing hangar.

Vortexringshark 3rd May 2022 07:52

Rocket lab catches rocket with helicopter
 

They then released it not long after as the pilot wasn't happy with something.

albatross 3rd May 2022 12:33

Didn’t the use fixed wing to do a similar recovery of film canisters from. the early recon satellites?

SASless 3rd May 2022 13:55

Both for Camera Buckets of Film returned from Low Earth Orbit and for the Firebee Drone using both helicopters and airplanes.


albatross 3rd May 2022 18:22

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e740602b1.jpegThen there was this system.

DonJohnson 3rd May 2022 21:48

Is it me or is does that look like a solid layer of cloud??? And they are VFR over the top??

EMS R22 4th May 2022 08:20


Originally Posted by DonJohnson (Post 11224726)
Is it me or is does that look like a solid layer of cloud??? And they are VFR over the top??

Looked more like 4 oktas.

PPRuNeUser0211 4th May 2022 18:42


Originally Posted by albatross (Post 11224652)

As featured in an early Bond - Thunderball iirc

albatross 4th May 2022 20:27


Originally Posted by pba_target (Post 11225126)
As featured in an early Bond - Thunderball iirc

Well I remember that pickup at the end of “Thunderball”.


Just FYI that ad appeared on the back cover of Flying magazine just a couple of years ago.


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