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The Nr Fairy 31st October 2020 08:43

@Flying Bull - even for first responders, they're still dead or injured if the aircraft crashes and then no use to the patient irrespective of whether they're arriving or are departing. The risk assumptions from an aviation perspective have to be the same either way.

Flying Bull 31st October 2020 19:28


Originally Posted by The Nr Fairy (Post 10915602)
@Flying Bull - even for first responders, they're still dead or injured if the aircraft crashes and then no use to the patient irrespective of whether they're arriving or are departing. The risk assumptions from an aviation perspective have to be the same either way.

You're right in that respect
But in terms of property damage due to downwash, first responders can do things, which you shouldn'tīt or wouldn't do in the commercial world, even if they should avoid extra costs due to damage ;-)


wrench1 4th November 2020 21:32


Originally Posted by Flying Bull (Post 10914806)
i was talking about risk assessment. Setting Preventable risks against risks accepted, cause otherwise a life is at stake


Law is, that for SAR, medical emergencies, police and armed forces you don't have to stick to some of the rules

first responders can do things
FYI: You know in some circles that attitude is called the White Knight Syndrome. Just like Sir Lancelot below. The difference is in the OPs video they did follow the rules landing on the trailer.:rolleyes:

Nubian 7th November 2020 11:31


Originally Posted by Flying Bull (Post 10916051)
You're right in that respect
But in terms of property damage due to downwash, first responders can do things, which you shouldn'tīt or wouldn't do in the commercial world, even if they should avoid extra costs due to damage ;-)

Now, I'd love to hear the reasoning for this one....

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f9af2066a1.jpg

Flying Bull 7th November 2020 11:36


Originally Posted by Nubian (Post 10921012)
Now, I'd love to hear the reasoning for this one....

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f9af2066a1.jpg

I have to search for the incident report, but I would bet, while doing the initial approach there was no car.
Drivers just don't give a s..., if they want to drive somewhere. Sometimes they even drive across pedestrian ways, if a police car blocks the road.....

treadigraph 7th November 2020 13:35

"He reversed into me..."

evil7 7th November 2020 14:35


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 10921079)
"He reversed into me..."

He actually did 😉
If I remember right - the car was there when he landed. A packed parking lot where he thought he could put it down.

GrayHorizonsHeli 7th November 2020 18:33

the angle of the dangle....or more appropriately, the direction that it looks like the fin entered the windshield, is of the downward direction....it didn't come from the front.

Mutley1013 7th November 2020 21:03

I think the car is an Opel, so it was asking for it really.

krypton_john 8th November 2020 18:34

Yeah the slot punched into the windscreen clearly shows downward impact. Lucky the TR didn't get involved in this fiasco.



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