R44 Down Red Rock Nevada
 

Best to just wait for the report.

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Nah, this is a rumor site....please speculate.

Better to learn from facts then speculation.

Only those who are afraid of hearing things they won't like discourage speculation.

Very little left of that aircraft in what appears to be fairly open terrain.

If you think ALL the facts come out in an accident report then you have a lot to learn.

Example: Fact, (not this incident but generic), this is what the reports state: "aircraft contacted terrain in IMC conditions, the pilot was not IFR rated". Yeah, what do we learn---nothing. The speculation as to why a pilot chose to fly in such conditions is where the meat and potatoes comes in. Speculation and rumor, if read by the right people, "may" prevent another PVT non-IFR rated pilot do such a thing.

Sorry to be blunt, but: please carry on speculating----if one cannot handle it, get off the bus.

Yes, speculation on the pilot's motives AFTER the facts have been laid out!

Tell me ANY facts that would preclude a healthy discussion?

You do realize the name of this website right? Professional Pilot RUMOR Network...

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It is voluntary and you are not required to read a thread, but don't try to prevent those who wish to participate from posting. I assure you there will be nothing distasteful allowed to remain, and everyone will be respectful.

Yeah, I suppose facts are overrated in today's world.

Proceed with your pointless speculations and rumours, then place bets on who got it right when the "facts" come in. :ok:

As Gordy suggests, critical facts are often missing following an accident, so "speculation" is often required to full the gaps. (Just how speculative the speculation is depends on the experience and knowledge of the speculator). The aim of the exercise is to avoid a repetition of the accident, not protect fragile egos. Anecdotal evidence is often used to build a profile of unfortunate aviators by inquiry teams, were they risk takers, were they professional, did they follow rules when the opportunity for doing otherwise presented itself.

I am definitely not a fan of needlessly desecrating the reputation of a deceased aviator (insert Daily Mail article here...), but every time you sign out and take off, if the worst happens, you are liable to external scrutiny that will determine whether on the day you screwed up or not. It's a bit late to check the "no publicity" box when you have just made your own smoking hole.