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Originally Posted by SASless
(Post 10259863)
Really?
If the engine fails in a single engine aircraft....day or night....you are guaranteed a landing. The difficulty at night particularly is making a safe landing. And after you have done all that it's probably going to be hard to walk away from it! |
COCISS? .
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Originally Posted by Thomas coupling
(Post 10260221)
The ONLY place for an unstabilsed SE helo in this (safety conscious) day and age is day VFR, COCISS.
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Originally Posted by aa777888
(Post 10260328)
COCISS? .
of Cloud in sight of surface |
Robbie
Thats why you yanks will continue to make CFIT a sport. And please don't tell me you fly a robbo as well? :O |
TC,
Please do explain how you arrived at that conclusion? CFIT accidents never happen in the UK or EASA Land? |
Stabilized as the solution? We flew Day/Night IFR for years on medvac with unstabilized Bell222UT. Never an issue. Even did the odd single-pilot hard IFR night flight, just for the challenge. After all, it was certified for single-pilot IFR. Have since seen lots of stabilized 139, 92, 76’s stove in CFIT. Try again. |
Originally Posted by Thomas coupling
(Post 10261023)
Robbie
Thats why you yanks will continue to make CFIT a sport. And please don't tell me you fly a robbo as well? :O We yanks do a lot of night tours in Robbo's and Jetboxes. CFIT is for HEMS Now excuse me while I find some wood to knock on :) |
TC....how many night and IMC hours did the US Army fly in OH-6, 13, 23, UH-1, H-19,21, 25, 34, TH-55, and TH-57's? The odd couple of Million or so.....all single engine and un-stabilized....some with only basic instruments and a mag compass.
I am thinking your fingers are operating independently of your brain again. |
Stabilized as the solution? We flew Day/Night IFR for years on medvac with unstabilized Bell222UT. Never an issue. Even did the odd single-pilot hard IFR night flight, just for the challenge. After all, it was certified for single-pilot IFR. Have since seen lots of stabilized 139, 92, 76’s stove in CFIT. Try again. i have 750 hours at night in a mixture of stabilised and unstabilised platforms. |
On the nail SFIM, but stabilisation has nothing to do with CFIT because if you lose it in an unstabilised cab it isnt CFIT but UFIT - totally uncontrolled. How can stabilisation prevent CFIT?
And for the record single engine IFR is totally acceptable to the CAA - ask the boys at Kemble |
And for the record single engine IFR is totally acceptable to the CAA - ask the boys at Kemble |
SAS: Them there's mil pilots, mate.
BIG difiference between mil drivers @ night unstab and the lumpen proletariat in their Meccano kits @ night/Unstab.:ooh: Hi Homonculus, how's life in the medical world? Stab at night 'assists' the pilot when he/she has a 'wobbly'....and loses SA. It's that little difference between life and death at times! Who you talking about @ Kemble? As for you Malabo - not biting! |
OP it was stopped in 1988 in UK, but not as a result of any accident
some strange statements on here - like the idea that you can't see clouds coming - of course you can see where there aren't clouds. - like the mention of engines, not relevant - stabilisation, are we breeding a generation that cant fly without stabilisation? |
Originally Posted by AnFI
(Post 10267322)
OP it was stopped in 1988 in UK, but not as a result of any accident
some strange statements on here - like the idea that you can't see clouds coming - of course you can see where there aren't clouds. |
I’ve flown at night in Robbies and aircraft that are suppose to be ifr capable like as355 f models. I think the 355 without the autopilot and trim is more unsteady and unstabilised than an r22. |
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